Big Ten Basketball 2022-23 Discussion

[BigBoutros]

fwiw

[M_Wolve91]

Dang. Tough crowd

[steve]

Bart is a h8r

[Slyboogie]

That game and cmu and the season is fine and trending positive.

Very frustrating.

[dreem]

Rutgers is almost in a tier alone, the floor is probably 13 wins. The next six games for IU are all tough, they might drop out of tier 2 but have a real chance to come out of it 4-2 and likely earning the double bye. Illinois looks a lot more like a ‘you are who you’ve played’ and will lose a lot of games to close the year, put them firmly in tier 3 to me.

Penn St might have to drop down to tier 5 now, too.

[buckets12]

@umhoops

Big Ten tiers?

• Tier 1: Purdue
• Tier 2: Rutgers, Illinois, Indiana
• Tier 3: Maryland, Iowa
• Tier 4: Michigan, Michigan State, Northwestern, Penn State
• Tier 5: Wisconsin, Ohio State
• Tier 6: Nebraska
• Tier 7: Minnesota

Tell me why Wisconsin is too low @buckets12!!!

Looks pretty right to me. I’m finally willing to dump by beloved Badgers - they are wasting my firstborn son Essegian and Gard should be imprisoned for it. Might put Rutgers in tier 2 by themselves and Iowa in tier 3 with Illinois/Indiana, Maryland in tier 4 with Mich/MSU/Penn State/NW

I think Iowa has essentially been awesome ever since they got Murray back and MD has mostly just had an easy schedule as of late (other than the IU win at home which was such a lookahead spot for them)

[umhoops]

@dreem

Illinois looks a lot more like a ‘you are who you’ve played’ and will lose a lot of games to close the year, put them firmly in tier 3 to me.

I still think if you were to draw teams to play in the BTT, you would feel a lot better about drawing Maryland than Illinois. And I’m not sure there’s a huge gap between Indiana and Rutgers by that same grading tool.

[umhoops]

@buckets12

I think Iowa has essentially been awesome ever since they got Murray back and MD has mostly just had an easy schedule as of late (other than the IU win at home which was such a lookahead spot for them)

FWIW: Iowa has played 6 of last 9 at home… finish with 4 of 7 on the road.

I agree they are playing well but home heavy schedule is worth noting.

[buckets12]

Iowa’s last nine games: 7-2, four KP top 25 wins over Indiana, Illinois, Rutgers and Maryland at home, and a win at Rutgers at the RAC. Only losses road games to top 50 opps.

Maryland’s last nine games: 6-3, one KP top 25 win over Indiana at home, four wins over non-tournament teams (Wisconsin, Nebraska, Michigan and Ohio State) at home, a win at Minnesota and losses in every road game they’ve played against non-Minnesota teams.

[buckets12]

Also while I talk this through…if Michigan actually misses the tournament, that Iowa loss at Carver is going to haunt me forever. It would be so much easier to talk yourself into the resume being good enough if they just don’t blow that lead in the final minute. Kobe’s foul ughhhhh

[mgl]

Humbly suggesting maybe Nebraska, OSU, and Wisconsin are all 1 tier

[umhoops]

Yeah, they are playing well but it is way easier to play well at home against good teams than on the road consistently against varying opposition. Just ask Maryland.

It’s also always been funny to me that Iowa seemingly has Rutgers’ number considering most people would swear that defense first is better than offense first.

Maryland at MSU and Iowa at Purdue are very interesting spots coming up.

No home games against Illinois and Rutgers is a huge blow for Michigan’s NCAA chances as well. Q1 home games are gold.

You want all the good teams at home if you are a bubble team. Michigan’s schedule is more optimal if it were a title contender.

[buckets12]

Maryland has double plays against Minnesota, Nebraska, Wisconsin and Ohio State

Maryland has single plays against Illinois, Iowa, Rutgers and Indiana

Abolish unbalanced schedules forever please

[telekinetic]

yeah, you can basically call those two maryland-maryland games easy maryland wins

[umhoops]

@mgl

Humbly suggesting maybe Nebraska, OSU, and Wisconsin are all 1 tier

Ohio State still has way better players. Wisconsin still has a better defense.

I know Nebraska won today but they have serious injury issues and I don’t think they can count on 30 from Tominaga to win many more games.

[Kashama1]

If we do miss the tourney, I will be looking back at Virginia, @Iowa and CMU directly so I would add UVA. 3 games that were basically won where we clawed defeat from the jaws of victory.

[umhoops]

@buckets12

Maryland has single plays against Illinois, Iowa, Rutgers and Indiana

The real scheduling gripe is that Purdue doesn’t play at Rutgers.

Reality is that most B10 races are going to come down to schedule. Especially when USC and UCLA come on board. Wisconsin obviously benefitted last year.

The fun thing would be some kind of double flex week based on the title race but that would probably end up hurting bubble teams so I can’t imagine it ever happens.

[buckets12]

@umhoops

@buckets12

Maryland has single plays against Illinois, Iowa, Rutgers and Indiana

The fun thing would be some kind of double flex week based on the title race but that would probably end up hurting bubble teams so I can’t imagine it ever happens.

I nominate you for Big Ten Commissioner

[AC1997]

Yeah, one of the reasons conference expansion is dumb iny opinion. I would love some sort of dynamic scheduling but that would take creativity and the powers that be don’t have any.

[tony]

this is an easy one