Big Ten Basketball 2021-22 Discussion

We talk about Wisconsin’s luck but how bout them Scarlet Knights?

People were asking what would happen if U-M wins out. Not right now.

I think right now, Michigan is in the tournament (not first four). Four more Q1 wins would take them from 5 to 9 Q1 wins, that’s a big shift.

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Michigan’s entire resume is built on 5 Q1 wins and 3 Q2 wins right now. We’re talking about a situation where they get four extra Q1s (unless there are big time upsets in the BTT). That’s a 80% increase in Q1 wins! Pretty massive change.

For reference Iowa is the final 6 seed on bracket matrix right now. They’re 2-5 Q1, 6-3 Q2, and 14-0 Q3/4.

Michigan would likely be 9-9 Q1, 3-3 Q2, 6-1 Q3, and 3-0 Q4. Those resumes are pretty similar. In fact, Michigan’s would be much better imo.

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I mean, every metric possible suggests it is a high probability. Are you the W/L column without context or numbers guy?

Late Saturday night or first thing Sunday morning

I’m judging the resume as a whole. Look at teams projected as a 6 7 or 8 seed and compare resumes. Winning the tourney do the jump teams like USC LSU Seton Hall etc…

Michigan’s resume would be extremely similar to Seton Hall’s if they win the BTT though…

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My point merely is those other teams can impact their seeding though. Maybe Seton Hall makes a run etc… Shouldn’t that solidify their seed or improve it?

I mean they can. But the question was what’s the highest seed Michigan can get, so it’s kind of built in with the assumption that the teams ahead of Michigan aren’t all going to be also winning their conference tournaments.

All of these same teams can also get a Q2/Q3 loss in round 1 of their tournaments and hurt their seeds.

My contacts aren’t in, but I could swear I just saw Bingham move both pivot feet like three times a piece and they didn’t call traveling

Indiana is 22 on Bart Torvik??? Man that’s better than I thought they were. That 8/9 game on Thursday would be a big win.

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Kenpom has Indiana way down at 44 though. That’s a pretty massive difference.

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I’m pretty sure that Torvik doesn’t do straight up efficiency margin like kenpom. Indiana has a lower efficiency margin than teams ranked below them in Torvik’s rankings. I’m assuming based on the teams they’re ahead of that his formula gives a boost to better defensive teams.

Ahh okay that makes sense.

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I wanna play Maryland.

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well you need to hope they come back from this 20 point deficit

Wow, I never noticed that… Wonder if his predictive numbers are better or worse.

I’m thrilled at our performance today and I think we have the tools to make a run against a mediocre B10 group…but let’s not go nuts. We’ve alternated wins and losses for a while, we are streaky on both ends of the court, we have no bench for a long run when Eli and Jones are playing almost 40 minutes per game. Let’s go win the first one and see what happens after that!

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Nope already hanging up my b10 tourney champ sign and you can’t convince me otherwise haha /s

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@umhoops what happens with the BQ bet if Minnesota loses today?? Or was the bet Nebraska vs NW? I forget