Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 2)

do you know who it is?

One of the first transfers mentioned in the transfer threadā€¦

LOL.

oh no, boutros

your dream is going to pop

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Fatts Russel?

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man I hope he doesnā€™t mean Marcus Carrā€¦

Xavier Johnson

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ooh that is a big risk for a first-time college coach

I donā€™t think this is Carr or Fatts. Fatts isnā€™t mentioned until ~ comment 150 and Carr after that at ~comment 200 in the transfer thread.

The first big name guard mentioned is Xavier Johnson (first player mentioned at all), followed by Justin Powell and Earl Timberlake. Johnson would make sense, but Iā€™m gonna put my money on Powell. He was great when healthy this year as a freshman and heā€™s from Louisville, so 2 hours from Bloomington. Also Dylan said one of the first names, not the first, which if weā€™re reading directly into things makes me think not Johnson.

TL;DR: My guess is Xavier Johnson or Justin Powell, probably Powell.

Dylan liked the Xavier Johnson comment soā€¦

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So itā€™s Powell right?

Iā€™m sure that Mike Woodson from and X &O perspective is a perfectly good coach, and lots of pros have liked him.

I think hiring an older man with no experience recruiting, with no contacts recruiting is just bats.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CNLcB__BiJf/?igshid=zloxfwpxws1l

In case it doesnā€™t load right from Instagram, Ron Harper Jr. is entering the draft while maintaining his eligibility.

Also another grad transfer to Minnesota, had a 107.7 ORTG on 24.4 USG as a senior this past year at Lafayette

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I know so many Maryland fans who will be upset by this news. They did not like Turgeon lmao

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That sounds a lot like Tom Creanā€™s tenure there, so I guess not?

Indiana fans think they should win the Big Ten every year and make the sweet 16 about 95% of the time

Eh, Tom Crean made three sweet sixteens in his last six years (pretty good), won two Big Ten Titles in those last six years (very good), but also missed the tournament two years (bad) and finished fifth, seventh, eighth and tenth in the other four years (bad).

A final four may have saved his job, but he was a real mixed back once he got the program up and running, Winning two out right big ten titles is really good, but missing the tournament two out of his last four years really shouldnā€™t happen at Indiana.

Which is what I keep coming back to. Mike Woodson could be a good coach, may in fact be a good coach, but I donā€™t see any reason to think he will get Indiana to be a perennial top ten team. I think he was the ā€œsafeā€ hire, high floor, low ceiling, whereas I would have wanted to hire someone with more variability and potential to really be great. Those choices are more likely to end up like Archie but Woodson just seems like a boring hire to me.

I think there is very little chance Woodson is a great hire or a terrible hire. He is going to be mediocre.

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Iā€™m going to be a little bit assertive and say that thereā€™s a disconnect here between peopleā€™s opinion-filled but usually very vague takes on coaches and prospective coaches, mostly shaped by the even hazier images of them spawned in the media, and the insistence on the importance of advanced stats and evidence-based evaluation of teams, players, and games, played and pending, here on this board.

For me, itā€™s neat that the B1G has gone from having zero toā€“whatā€“four (?) Black coaches, and Iā€™m wishing each of them success. You hope that ADs have taken at least a little of the Branch Rickey approach and hired men who really stood a good chance of succeeding, and I am not knowledgeable to tell in each of these cases. But just HAVING the chance is a start.

Woodson is apparently good enough to have a job as NBA assistant pretty much anywhere. He has experience that young players will venerate as an NBA coach. He has some charisma, and pedigree as a former IU player on championship teams and for Bob Knight. IU is going out of its way to bolster the parts of the job where he lacks experience. Iā€™m a little surprised by the blanket negativity, which seems. . . a little under-examined. (I do think that measuring up to the stupid expectations of IU fans may be impossible; thatā€™s an argument I take to heart.) But I look forward to seeing!

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I think thereā€™s A LOT of similarity between Michigan football and Indiana basketball. There are advantages and itā€™s possible to win but the insane pressure to win and environment around the program make it really really hard.

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