Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 2)

Minnesota trying to tank our resume by making our loss to them a Q2 loss

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This win for Nebraska could move them into Q2 road territory (76-135) – they’re currently 144.

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is it guaranteed that Minnesota will drop to Q2 now?

Poor Marcus Carr. 41 in a losing effort. Tough to be the only guy on the team who seems to care.

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Michigan has a bunch of teams on the cusp of moving up/down in NET Quadrant rankings.

  • Minnesota was 65th before this loss. Moving below 75th moves our win from a Q2 to Q3, and loss from Q3 to Q2.

  • Rutgers is 31st and Maryland is 32nd. Either of them moving to top 30 make the home wins Q1 wins from their current Q2 standing.

  • Nebraska as you mentioned is on the verge of moving up to Q2.

  • Toledo is currently 67th in the NET. If they drop below 75th they move to a Q3 win instead of Q2, however they destroyed WMU today and should move up.

  • Ball State is currently 171st. Moving into the top 160 moves them from Q4 to Q3.

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Can’t know for sure until we see the new rankings tomorrow, but if they’re not Q2 tomorrow they’ll be right on the edge of it. So unless you trust Minnesota to win some games moving forward, expect them to drop.

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Big picture- does it even matter? We have one loss in the best conference in the country. Hard to imagine a scenario where we get passed as a 1 seed.

And Baylor is currently losing to Kansas. Lunardi already said we’d move ahead with a loss.

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This loss makes MSU getting the 9 seed almost a sure thing now. All MSU needs to do is beat Indiana

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How old is Jess Settles? He played at Iowa in the 90s, right?

My only thing I wonder about if Michigan beats Illinois on Tuesday and clinch Big title will they compete as hard verse MSU? Hope they would being in State rival but would not be surprised if see little let up or may even in second contest want to rest starters a little if win first matchup with State for the tourneys. Just want them to be fresh for the NCCA tourney without injury and without anybody getting sick.

Michigan will bring it for Senior night. That is not the game I’m worried about. East Lansing will be interesting - but I don’t worry about this team taking any MSU game for granted.

Count me in for 3 wins in 8 days against Sparty, but they still get a last-four-in bid as the rest of the bubble crumbles. Those wins this week were effing huge

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I think Michigan will compete hard against MSU, but if we’ve already wrapped up the title I have a hard time believing we can win two in a row, to say nothing of three if we’re already locked into playing them again. It’s a weird, weird arrangement that I’m not thrilled with.

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Totally agree. In fact I think MSU will sweep us.

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@jemblue, I think I remember Settles saying he played against the fab five. So late 40’s?

That’s what I was thinking, but seeing him in BTN studio he looks older.

Not being up for MSU is one thing I would never worry about with UM bb. They are 20 year olds, they will have no problem getting up for two against MSU and then again for the tourney; conf and NCAA.

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Not to mention, they’ll have 3 games at most in, what, 12 days? They’ll be fine.

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To follow up from yesterday:

  • Minnesota is down to 72nd. So they haven’t dropped yet but are right on the edge of doing so. They have games left @ PSU and vs Rutgers, so winning one of those (ideally @ PSU) and a first round BTT game, while keeping the other games close, may be enough to keep them from falling to Q2/Q3 territory.

  • Rutgers and Maryland stayed stagnant since neither played. For multiple reasons a Maryland win today would be good. Maryland has games vs MSU, @ NW and vs PSU left. Rutgers has games @ Nebraska and @ Minnesota left.

  • Toledo jumped all the way up to 57. Probably not going to get close to the top 30 needed to go to Q1, but hopefully high enough that we don’t have to worry about a drop to Q3. Toledo has games @ CMU and vs Ball St. left.

  • Nebraska is up to 138. If they can jump 3 more spots upward they move to Q2 status. They have games vs Nebraska, @ Iowa and @ NW left.

  • Ball State fell back to 176 despite a win. They need to go to 160 to move to Q3, but luckily it doesn’t matter how far back they drop since they’re already Q4. They have games @ EMU and @ Toledo left.

  • Indiana is a new addition to the watch. They’re currently 59th, which is Q1 status with a road win, but dropping below 75 drops to Q2. They have games @ MSU and @ Purdue left.

Also we jumped Baylor to #2 in the NET.

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from a seeding point of view I think very little matters in terms of shifts from Q2 to Q3 or whatnot, but Minnesota being a Q2 loss instead of Q1 would be a mildly big deal. As the only loss on our resume right now, it sticks out like a sore thumb on any sort of list and dropping it down to Q2 would make it look a bit worse. Nobody will care if a win gets shift from Q2 to Q3 or vice versa.

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