Honestly Beilein for 4-5 years makes a lot of sense if I’m Indiana. But maybe I’m naive but I don’t think Beilein wants to coach against Michigan.
Archie is squarely on the hot seat. Being 0-6 against Purdue will only hurt his case and IU fans already wanted him out.
I don’t know. Beilein needs time to implement his system. He went 10-22, 21-14 and 15-17 his first three years here. If he did something like that there, he’d be past 70 already before they’d had any success (they won’t consider a simple tourney bid to be a big success like we did in 2009…).
Yeah this is the scary scenario for Michigan. Really Indiana just needs some positive momentum. Even with the Crean years, they could never really get there/back to their blue blood status. If Beilein can point them in that direction for 4-5 years that could be appealing for them.
Having said that, good points upthread with Archie’s status, given a significant buyout, his youth and COVID budgets I think they would probably keep him unless the wheels come off. But he does have to beat Purdue at some point. I’m not totally up to speed on recruiting but what does he have coming in next year? Trying to imagine what post-TJD Indiana looks like and they could be not good. Lander seems like he would have to make a huge step considering he is barely even playing this year.
Indiana is also in a much better spot as a program compared to Michigan when Beilein took over. Also they’re Indiana, so recruiting and fan support won’t be an issue. So a turnaround could happen much quicker.
The problem isn’t really about recruiting, it’s that his system is complicated and requires a lot of buy-in. His first season at a new stop is usually pretty rough. Only at Richmond did he hit the ground running.
He’s also really adapted as a coach since then. So I think he could do better now, so long as his destination has solid talent. And has more cache to recruit better than he did in his early UM days
I get that there would be some growing pains but the situation talent wise and recruiting wise at Indiana is SIGNIFICANTLY better than what it would be when he arrived at Michigan.
His first U-M class was Ben Cronin, Stu Douglass and Zack Novak…
He’s also recruited in the Midwest for a decade now and would have a lot more ability to hit the ground running.
Regarding this Wisconsin/Rutgers game, a very intriguing match-up. Wisconsin trying to avoid a free-fall and a Rutgers team definitely in one. So both teams should be highly motivated.
Lost in how well Michigan played Tuesday was that Wisconsin really didn’t play well. Some of that credit obviously goes to Michigan but I wonder if Wisconsin is closer to the OSU/Rutgers/Indiana level than the top 3. If I knew Rutgers was going to shoot like earlier in the year, I would go them for sure but I think I would lean Rutgers but this could be a bloodbath.
But he also inherited DeShawn Sims, Manny Harris, Epke Udoh, and Kelvin Grady from Amaker. That was not a typical 10-win team from a talent standpoint.
@umhoops lets say Indiana came calling JB (who knows they may already be doing so…) do you think its something he would consider and/or ultimately take on?
I have no idea.
there might be some truth to Wisconsin being more of a pretender this year but they are an old team with tons of experiences and I don’t see a free fall.
Kelvin Grady? 
Look at that team and go down the roster and see how many guys played major minutes on that team that just weren’t good enough to be Big Ten players. Ekpe Udoh didn’t want to be there, Manny was a freshman, Peedi was awful as a freshman and not really ready to be the guy as a sophomore. The rest of the roster didn’t have much of any talent.
Gibson, Jevohn, Anthony Wright, Kelvin Grady, Ron Coleman, CJ Lee, David Merritt
Beilein is also just a wildly different coach than he was when he arrived at Michigan. I think he’d approach some things differently.
Kelvin Grady was not good. Udoh was still raw and Beilein probably didn’t know how to use him well at the time. That leaves sophomore Deshawn Sims and freshman Manny Harris. Every player besides Udoh, Sims, and Harris was not B1G caliber.
And compare that to Indiana… Even if you lose a couple due to transfers or whatever… The roster has Armaan, Lander, Race, Phinisee, Hunter, Galloway, Leal, Geronimo… Those are Big Ten-caliber players and talents.
Reuvers needs to figure it out. He looks a shell of himself confidence wise.
A 69year old beilein who was tired of recruiting at iu does not scare me much. A rejuvenated Thad Marta would scare me more.
To me Reuvers has not looked the same since Happ graduated. Does not seem comfortable as “the guy.”
Is Indiana a blue blood? I’ve always looked at them as Bobby Knight or not Bobby Knight.
A lot of people consider them blue blood. I’d put them in the next category just behind BB with MSU, UM, Villanova, Arizona, Louisville and the other school formerly known as a blue blood, UCLA. I think the only true blue bloods right now are Duke, UNC, Kentucky and Kansas.