All good points and discussion. I can’t wait for the season to start and to get away from the recruiting issues. I think I read the first practice is 45 days before the first game…can anyone confirm?
Well if Coleman ends up at Illinois (latest buzz), we should have a great opportunity to judge everyone's progress over the next few years :-)
A day ago the buzz was UNLV. Which is perhaps a small window onto why the coaches did not wait on him and took Robinson. Certainly Coleman knew about the developing recruitment of Robinson. If Coleman really wanted Michigan, that would have been the time to say so. The fact that the Colemans set up all of their other visits and then called for a date with Michigan, and were surprised to find the offer gone, tells you that there had not been much communication between the staff and the Colemans in the recent past. Now, if someone believes that Robinson is not a high D1 caliber player - and a couple on here do believe that - then waiting for Coleman to decide, even though an iffy situation at best, might have been the way to go. IMO, Robinson can play at this level and fit very well into what we like to do.
The rest of the B1G is having great success with this 2015 class.
.@takhtehchianmd I love Jalen Coleman as a point guard. Acknowledged as great shooter but pg skills under rated.
— Jerry Meyer (@jerrymeyer247) September 19, 2014
@THEREALPCHAP @illinois247 @UNLV247 The intel I'm receiving says Illinois.
— Jerry Meyer (@jerrymeyer247) September 19, 2014
Amazing.
The rest of the B1G is having great success with this 2015 class.Good.
What were the dates of the offers to Robinson and Coleman?
Jalen Coleman is a very good player, but nobody is confusing him for a PG.
If that’s what Illinois and UNLV are selling him then g
good for them. I’d prefer a ton of other players at the PG slot.
He is a SG through and through.
I definitely think Jalen Coleman can develop into a Damian Lillard/Juan Dixon type of PG.
What were the dates of the offers to Robinson and Coleman?
I’ll answer my own questions:
Coleman offered June 17, 2013
Robinson somewhere around August 2, 2014
…seems like Coleman had plenty of chance to commit, show interest, etc.
At some point, you look around to see what else is out there. That’s recruiting, isn’t it?
Recruiting that will bear itself out in the coming seasons.
Recruiting that will bear itself out in the coming seasons.
yeah. recruiting plays itself out in the coming seasons. that’s part of how this whole game works.
Recruiting that will bear itself out in the coming seasons.yeah. recruiting plays itself out in the coming seasons. that’s part of how this whole game works.
Which is why we are discussing it. Shocking.
What were the dates of the offers to Robinson and Coleman?I’ll answer my own questions:
Coleman offered June 17, 2013
Robinson somewhere around August 2, 2014
…seems like Coleman had plenty of chance to commit, show interest, etc.
At some point, you look around to see what else is out there. That’s recruiting, isn’t it?
As you say, Coleman had plenty of chance to commit…to any other program as well, but he didn’t. As such, and in conjunction with the fact that he attempted to set up a visit, indicates he still had interest in UM, but UM no longer reciprocated.
They simply preferred Robinson in my opinion
What were the dates of the offers to Robinson and Coleman?I’ll answer my own questions:
Coleman offered June 17, 2013
Robinson somewhere around August 2, 2014
…seems like Coleman had plenty of chance to commit, show interest, etc.
At some point, you look around to see what else is out there. That’s recruiting, isn’t it?As you say, Coleman had plenty of chance to commit…to any other program as well, but he didn’t. As such, and in conjunction with the fact that he attempted to set up a visit, indicates he still had interest in UM, but UM no longer reciprocated.
They simply preferred Robinson in my opinion
Beilein probably likes Thornton better than Winston or Goodin, but he’ll take the first to commit. He might have liked Coleman better than Robinson or Davis, but he took the first to commit. Dozier is someone who he likes a lot more than Coleman and is willing to keep a schollie open for him.
What were the dates of the offers to Robinson and Coleman?I’ll answer my own questions:
Coleman offered June 17, 2013
Robinson somewhere around August 2, 2014
…seems like Coleman had plenty of chance to commit, show interest, etc.
At some point, you look around to see what else is out there. That’s recruiting, isn’t it?As you say, Coleman had plenty of chance to commit…to any other program as well, but he didn’t. As such, and in conjunction with the fact that he attempted to set up a visit, indicates he still had interest in UM, but UM no longer reciprocated.
They simply preferred Robinson in my opinion
Well, he had over a year to show his interest. He had a chance. At some point, you’ve got to move on. See a guy you like and that wants to come, then sure. At the rate it was going, we were only hoping to be in Coleman’s top 5 so who knows if he would have picked us in the end anyway.
Originally Coleman was my favorite recruit. But when he transferred from Cathedral to LaLumiere…things changed and I heard enough to understand why Beilein wasn’t messing around.
Not sure why this is such a protracted discussion, other than that some posters have to always get the last word and show that they’re “right” (whatever that is in this case). The concept is, as sensible people have pointed out, pretty simple. Bird in the hand. Coleman and Robinson were both liked by the coaches and both had offers. Robinson wanted to commit, so they took him, rather than reject him and wait longer and longer for Coleman to decide and cross their fingers that he’d pick us. The choice between a potentially good player that’s a sure commit on the one hand, and a potentially great player who might very well not pick us at all, leaving us empty, is one that coaches on pretty much every team make all the time in recruiting. That’s what our coaches did here.
Sure, it’d be nice if we were Kentucky and still had a whole slew of five stars as possibly or likely commits, but we’re not. Our coaches have to make more practical choices. Is it possible that Robinson will be a bust in DI AND that if we’d waited, Coleman would have committed to us AND turned out to be an elite player? Sure. It’s also possible that Robinson will be a very good player for us, and that waiting for Coleman would have left us empty-handed. Anyone who claims to know that our coaches made the worst of the two decisions just isn’t credible, because they don’t know. It’s nothing more than opinion at this point. No matter how much they criticize Robinson’s lateral movement.
Anyone who claims to know that our coaches made the worst of the two decisions just isn't credible, because they don't know. It's nothing more than opinion at this point. No matter how much they criticize Robinson's lateral movement.
Aren’t forums used to discuss opinions?
Also, add strength and foot speed to lateral quickness
A lot has been made of him being 6’8’’ but I bet he has a wingspan much smaller than that
I’m pretty sure they know your opinion on the matter Guestavo. Maybe you guys should just agree to disagree and move on to other topics.
Yes, as long as certain posters recognize their “opinions” as exactly that, and don’t try to pretend that they are informed by greater actual knowledge than they really are. And when you have nothing new in the way of actual knowledge to add to what’s already been stated, then, as others have also suggested, it’s time to move on and wait to see how things play out in real life.