2024 NBA Playoffs Thread

The NBA.com stats page is actually amazingly good - breaks stuff down by play type (you can see what Duncan Robinson P&R’s average in PPP, what his possessions as a catch shoot guy do, etc). Also has all the temp free stuff too. I use it for my alumni recaps in the other thread all the time. NBA.com goes way more in depth than Torvik, probably the best option for player details.

Cleaning the Glass has their own all-in-one player value metric and their own “kenpom time” filter too.

Subscribing to Dunc’d On gets you Seth Partnow’s (recently retired head of basketball analytics for the Bucks) personal stats, which include total usage and stuff like that

BR is good too

Both BR and NBA.com (which are the free options) will give you net rating, which is tempo free Kenpom/torvik score. The task is obviously way easier in the NBA due to there only being 30 teams.

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The west is wide open, I think. Nuggets obviously the favorite, Celtics really the only reasonable option in the East. I do think the Sixers will get to the conference finals though. The Knicks are ok but so many injuries at this point (only Randle is out (which is important), but OG, Robinson, Brunson all aren’t 100%)

Embiid must answer questions of his playoff performance. His numbers were down across the board in the playoff compared to the regular season and part of it is he doesn’t get the whistle he gets in the regular season (and also, there’s more scouting and scheme to stop/slow down Embiid). If he can answer it, Philly makes it out of the Eastern Conference.

I think this year’s Embiid is better than prior versions, and he’s also had a mountain of weird injuries (broken nose, etc). I’m not ready to write him off yet.

Net rating is just an average while KP and BT AdjEM are model outputs, fwiw. One of the big reasons to do a model is to adjust for schedule imbalances which matters waaay more in CBB, tho you can see the differences between SRS (a very simple model) and net rating on bref are often material for the very best teams. Conference differences are real.

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Basketball Reference also has an Adjusted Net Rating that accounts for strength of schedule.

isn’t that SRS?

It says: “an estimate of point differential per 100 possession adjusted for strength of opponent”

The explainer is kind of helpful. I think I follow the difference between SRS and this?

Hoop Central: Jimmy Butler and Tyler Herro had to be separated on the Miami Heat team bus after last night’s game against the 76ers: Butler kept saying “9 for 27” and Herro reportedly threw a punch that did not connect. Butler then yelled “9 FOR 28!”

I love Jimmy

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Does Donovan ever go small ball 5? I think Craig is really the only option for it but I’d still give it a shot.

Vuc is just an awful player and they’re targeting him every single trip.

When we had Derrick Jones he did often

Also Drummond is flat out better than Vuc

Vuc isn’t a bottom 5 contract for nothing. Drummond is whatever but bc he doesn’t have an ego about needing shots he’s clearly better.

Can’t be editing while I’m posting man cmon

Not trading Caruso was such a joke

He’s just wasting his time on this team

I like DeRozan but I don’t know how he works on a good team

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DeRozan would be dope as a 6th man on a great team. I think he can be a smart defender as he moves down the pecking order too.

Right now both are just getting torched on defense. They need to switch everything. Neither big can tag and get back.

Yeah they’re both not great in drop nor athletic enough to hedge or blitz it’s not ideal

Torrey Craig has also been awful this year

I don’t know who the small ball five would be

Javonte Green is shooting guard sized and plays the 4

Yeah they’re crazy small. The roster is weird at best.