2022 NBA Draft Discussion

He has a passion for accruing NCAA infractions.

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Houstan at 13.

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Of note in the B1G

Ivey at 8
Christie at 16
McGowens at 18
Murray at 25
Liddell at 39
Kofi at 43
TJD at 59

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No Hunter? :thinking:

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Nope ā€“ Hunter is probably in the 75-125 range right now Iā€™d say as far as big board type rankings.

Dylan - What do you think the appeal of Kofi is at 43 versus Hunter being >75? Hunter is taller, longer, has more offensive skill, shoots FTs better, etc. Kofi may have more lateral quickness but probably not enough to guard on the perimeter. Iā€™m not arguing that maybe Kofi is more appealing, just curious why NBA scouts would see those two significantly different. I would have expected Kofi, TJD, and Hunter to all be clustered in the 45-60 range.

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Is Hunter longer? I actually am not sure on that. Especially when factoring in leaping ability. I think Kofi can be projected to be a lob threat, Iā€™m not sure Hunter has that same projection, which is why he needs the jumper because right now Kofi has a more obvious NBA offensive skill than Hunter even though he is overall more skilled.

Kofi is longer and more athletic.

Definitely agree with @kturnup that he puts more vertical pressure on the defense with his over the top threat.

Iā€™m also not really an NBA Draft guy, just going off of what has been published. Most people have Kofi in that range and I havenā€™t see anyone that has Hunter in that range. :wink:

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Those have Kofi as having a 2" higher standing reach even though wingspan and height are about even. Hunter must have a significantly longer neck. Add in 5 more inches of vert and thatā€™s 7 more inches of vertical spacing which is the difference between hammering down lobs from Trae Young or not.

At this yearā€™s G League combine, Hunter was the slowest player, had the smallest vertical leap, and had the 3rd slowest shuttle drill.

Iā€™m not saying these things are determinative, but if you believe there is a minimal athletic ability required to play in the NBA, I donā€™t think its nuts to worry if Hunter has it.

Kofiā€™s standing vertical is 5 inches more (as is his running) his 3/4 sprint was 1/2 a second faster. He also has a bigger wingspan.

Iā€™m honestly not sure why TJD is as high as he isā€¦his offensive game is sort of anachronistic and a weird NBA fit.

Yeah, TJD is a weird one to me too. I think heā€™s perceived to have more positional flexibility than Kofi/Hunter because heā€™s a little smaller and seemingly more athletic? But he doesnā€™t have a jump shot and isnā€™t the physical presence or defender. So it isnā€™t clear to me what his upside is to the NBA - which might be why his draft projection is lower than Kofi.

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Yeah, heā€™s a 6ā€™8" post player who canā€™t guard post players. Heā€™s Corliss Williamson, best case.

If Hunter hits about 36% from 3 this year he will intrigue a lot of teams. I think his bball IQ will also be a plus. Wonā€™t make him a 1st rounder but keep him in the conversation for second round. There are several slow centers in the NBA who just know how to play. Joker is one of the best of them. Before anyone says anything I am not saying Hunter can be like Joker. All you need is one team to like you. He may be better off not being drafted and choosing a team that plays to his strengths to sign with.

I would agree that Hunter doesnā€™t have to show heā€™s Garza from three - he just has to show thereā€™s hope there. (I would avoid all use of Joker in this discussionā€¦that guyā€™s a unicorn if there ever was one.)

For me, what started this whole thing was his quote. If you asked me what Iā€™d like to see him improve for Michiganā€™s benefit (whether or not it is what the NBA would say), then Iā€™d rank it like this:

  1. Ability to score with either hand in the post
  2. Ability to handle the ball well enough to get his own post position rather than have to be fed a pass (this is actually something TJD can do a little and something Garza could do and Happ was great at).
  3. Hit 33% or more on a couple of attempts per game
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My brain hasnā€™t fully closed the door on Year 3 of Hunter. His NBA prospects arenā€™t going to be great and he loves a spotlight, which heā€™ll never have again at anywhere near this level. How much more does he have to make professionally somewhere to make up for the combination of NIL earnings + spotlight? Maybe he just figures one more year of fun as a big fish in a big pond before he goes off to be a smaller fish in a smaller pond? Iā€™m not heading into the call your shot thread with this line of thinking, and obviously most guys who say One More Year really do mean it, but seems reasonable to say thereā€™s a 5% chance.

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Thatā€™s basically the Kofi Cockburn situation fwiw. He wants to be in the NBA, the NBA didnā€™t want him, so heā€™s back in college.

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Hunter wants to go. Whether he will do that at all costs regardless of what the NBA says is the question, but generally once they have one foot out the door they donā€™t come back. Kofi is a pretty huge exception. But Iā€™d look at him announcing heā€™s coming back on the last possible day and announcing it as a final ride as the biggest indicators of how he is feeling about it.

If he doesnā€™t get the NBA interest that he thinks will/could happen then maaaaaybe he comes back, so yeah theoretically possible so 5% is probably fair.

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I guess never say neverā€¦I think the 5% number is probably the O/U right now. The key to the entire equation would be if thereā€™s a maturity to NIL in the next year that makes it more financially viable to stay. If he could sign some significant endorsement deal after a March Madness run that makes him a national brand without the NBA having much interestā€¦then maybe.

Honestly, Iā€™m hoping at least one of the NBA hopefuls (Houstan, Diabate, Dickinson) come back.

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If you want Hunter back, but some Big Dickinson Energy shirts

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How many is enough? Let us, as a group, try and find out.

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