People were not duped into taking that double credit course A380.
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Hereās the thing, Michigan DOES have a āsizeā class. I really donāt know the course number, but itās generally known as āCamp Sanderson.ā There may be several courses because itās available to both undergrad and graduate level student athletes! I understand itās really popular with the basketball players.
There is a similar course available to football players at Michigan. I donāt know the name of that course but itās taught by Ben Herbert. I understand these courses really get dramatic results and the instructors have the photos to prove it! 
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āToolsyā - Twice in one day. I will say that I have never seen Jonathan Givony and Mr. The Box and One in the same room at the same time.
Also, if Banton āmakes itā in the NBA, it proves someoneās point that certain NBA talent is not necessary evident in their college game.
Leading a team, even a bad one, in assists, rebounds and blocks is impressive.
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Yeah Banton definitely pops when you watch him. He can pass and move. Remains to be seen if he can actually score. And heās old for a sophomore, so the clockās ticking.
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Banton obviously had great ball screen feel and size he just absolutely canāt shoot.
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Still maintain he would have been fun to watch in a Michigan uniform
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So how is he any different than Barnes? I havenāt watched a lick of Nebraska basketball.
I think someone like Chaundee is more likely to get drafted in the final few picks than someone like Zegarowski for instance. If youāre the Nets at 59 or a team like that, Brown is a guy who you can just plug in and ask to play some D and hit a 3 and you get him cheap for a few years.
Still seems odd Dosunmu isnāt going in the 20s.
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I think the question with Brown is how much of the āDā part of 3 and D theyāll be getting. Testing numbers werenāt great for agility and there were often problems off ball in college. He has the dog in him for sure though.
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I donāt think thatās a hot take
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I agree on Donsumuā¦I assumed he would be a top twenty guy. Good size, good playmaker, solid shooter, still youngā¦
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I think a problem with him is heās a ball dominant guard and how his game translate off the ball or being a true PG is an issue for Ayo.
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Yeah heās a guy with a shot thatās below NBA average right now and he clearly doesnāt have wing size. So heās going to have to have the ball in his hands and be an offensive engine to create value for NBA teams. Itās not completely impossible he gets there but he only has that one path and there are a lot of young guys w/ better looking trajectories or old guys whoāve proven they have a valuable NBA level skill or two.
Like, compare him to Bones. Fairly similar in size. Bones is a lot skinnier, but has a better reach. Neither is really plausible as a wing. But Bones has a good steal rate, made 83% of his FTs (NBA average is 80%), and is a year younger. A lot of model-informed NBA teams will see that and say heās farther along than Ayo was at the same age and already has at least one NBA-level skill w/ his shooting.
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Thatās insightfulā¦good point. I just look at Ayo as being a ball dominant guy in a league that likes that and think he can be a guy who leads your second unit. Heās 6-5, shot 39% from three and 78% from the line, averaged more than 6 boards, and played in the best league.
I get that heās a little older and has some limitationsā¦but is he really that much behind Davien Mitchell (lottery lock), James Bouknight (fringe lottery) or Cam Thomas (mid/late first)? I guess we will see.
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I think Bones has a better chance of having a career in the NBA than Ayo because he can play off the ball and can shoot. Heās skinny though. Would love to have him in Detroit if Weaver trades up into late 1st for him to pair him with Cade and Killian. Heād be a nice fit for them as a combo G who can handle and shoot. Cade and Killian has the size to guard bigger G so itās not a big deal IMO.
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He reminds me a lot of Dennis Schroeder
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Really interesting read there. I basically have no way of knowing how right that argument is, but it was convincing enough for me. The big thing about Franz is that, for a wing, he just doesnāt have many holes in his game on either end of the court, other than (maybe?) shooting.
Iām obviously biased toward Franz though, so I could be wrong.
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