Franz’s skill sets fit today’s NBA more than Moe, and given his youth and potential of growing stronger or even taller, he can certainly move higher.
Well I think Mo was over drafted, so to me that doesn’t mean Franz should be higher. If Franz finishes this season 33% from 3, he won’t get into the teens. That seems like a pretty reasonable take to me. If you look at the guys in Franz profile that went in the 10-20 range they shot a higher percentage from 3
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I think if Franz shoots 40% from three he’s probably a no doubt lottery pick. If he shoots 30% from three, who knows…if he keeps adding to his passing reel like he has the last few games he’s probably still a first round pick this year. But I really still think the guy we saw for most of the non-conference slate was a 2nd round pick or a 2022 pick as he was recently mocked. Obviously upside is way higher than that, and if he keeps up his recent form, I’d bet he falls between the 20-30 range in 2021.
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If he falls out of the teens, it’s not gonna be just because his 3pt%. Those get drafted in the lottery every year.
JMO but even before the breakout at Nebraska he was projecting as a first-round pick. For upside wings, if you are particularly young, long, and shoot FTs well, you’re in. 6-10, two-way potentia, young for a sophmore and 85% from the line is a flat-out winning combination for a pick in the 20s. Every team needs that kind of wing prospect.
What do you mean “those get drafted in the lottery every year”? Do you mean bad 3 point shooters? Yes, but they are usually extraordinarily athletic and probably project to be primary on ball creators at the next level.
He’s not going to fall out of the teens, cause he’s never been projected there at all.
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Pistons took Stanley Johnson at 9 a few years back. Not considered an athlete or a shooter or an on-ball creator. Justise Winslow was also a lottery pick that year, and wasn’t considered an on-ball creator and hadn’t established himself as a shooter either.
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Those were OADs that were considered raw and that teams thought they could work their raw potential into something greater. Also those were just bad picks. And both shot better than Franz from 3 in college at a rate basis.
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That’s the thing about this. Whoever is named gets a YEAH BUT as if there’s a 100% perfect comparison. Kevin knox and cam reddish are other examples.
I don’t think Franz will shoot that low, nor do I think he falls into the 20s, so this is all moot for me.
Franz obviously isn’t a OAD but he’s still only 19 years old and has plenty of raw potential.
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Also, I’m not gonna go look right now, but Franz won’t be much older than a 1ndone either.
I understand, but for whatever reason being an McD AA seems to add to your draft stock. I guess I’m just unsure how saying Franz won’t get higher than 20s is some crazy take considering he’s never been mocked as such. Especially if he doesn’t shoot better, which is the qualifier I made
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Age is a big part of it – Franz dosn’t turn 20 for another 8 months, so he’ll be the same ag as a normal OAD.
I don’t think it’s CRAZY to say that Franz won’t get higher than the 20s, but nor is it crazy to imagine he gets up into the teens. Especially since it’s not really the 3 percentage they look as as much as its the FTs, and he’s well above 80%, so in draft context they’ll assume he’s going to be a capable 3 shooter.
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Is there evidence that’s what NBA scouts prefer to look at? I know there’s been statistical analyses done that say FT% is more correlative to 3 pt shooting in the NBA, but I would be pretty surprised myself if that was the #1 thing they looked at when evaluating a shooter.
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Does his play-making ability really also set him apart? He’s really got a chance to shine there as the season unfolds. Who among the comparable entering players mentioned could pass and see the floor like he does?
I hear it from people who know more than me and often enough from them to believe it. But if it’s right to be skeptical of that, I’m certainly open-minded about it.
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JMO but it certainly could if he scales up more of that kinda thing. It’s harder to imagine scouts seeing a heavy-volume on-ball creator, but easy to think he be seen as a good passer who sees the floor when he has the ball in his hands.
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German TV market might neutralize any effects of not being a McD AA.
Sam Vecenie has an updated Mock on The Athletic. Franz at 36 and now Hunter Dickinson as well at 39.
Go away, Sam
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