Because he told me.
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Do we think Carmody is going to get an offer once JB sees him live? I REALLY hope so â he seems to like UM a lot and Iâd hate to widen the opening for other schools by slow-playing him. He seems like a really versatile player who will be around for 4 years â the kind of guy who can really stabilize a program while heâs around.
Yeah, Iâd expect him to get an offer early in July.
Trouble with the April period is that there are only 6 days of evaluation really and Iâm pretty sure Beilein was at the EYBL for 95% of the time. July will leave more time for other events to track an adidas kid like Carmody.
95% is conservative lol. He was there damn near the ENTIRE time.
If I had to compare Robby to someone (Dylan hates this lol), Rex Chapman is the name that instantly comes to mind. I would love to have this kid on the roster.
If Carmody is HALF the player Chapman was sign me up immediately!
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I like Carmody a lot, too. A lot.
I wonder if the impending Davison visit and the fact that he has made it known that he will decide very promptly has any impact on a Carmody offer. Iâm not trying to stereotype hereâCarmody is certainly much, much more athletic than Davison, while Davison clearly has an ability to play PG that Carmody doesnât possessâbut at the end of the day, both are shooters whose primary position at Michigan is likely to be 2G. Given that we also have Poole in the fold, who is also a shooter first, my thought is that maybe they donât want too many guys in that role leaving holes elsewhere, and are willing to give the '17 kid (who can also act as a back-up PG) a quick first shot before offering Carmody and Cormac Ryan (who, himself, is more like a taller, more skilled, but less physically tough Davison than like Carmody). Let me make clearâI have zero inside information, or even rumor on thisâitâs just speculation as I try to put pieces together.
Itâs interesting, right? On balance, I think we would prefer Carmody and Ryan, but both of those guys are 2018 recruits and if we donât take a ball handler in 2017, it more or less leaves just Simpson, though I suppose Poole could handle the ball a bit.
I think Matthews can handle a bit as well
I think Carmody will get an offer even if Davison were to commit. Matthews primary position will be the 3 at Michigan. Davison can play the 1 at Michigan, especially with guys who can handle the ball at the 2 and 3 (like Walton with NIk and Caris). Then you have Watson '16 and Poole '17. Watson has the size to the play the 3 in college. I donât think they would not offer Carmody in '18, a guy who seems like a great fit for UM in every possible way, and plan to skip a cycle for SGs/wings. With DJâs fifth year not guaranteed, thereâs still plenty of room for another center in '18 and then a couple big wing/PF types in '17 and '18.
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In looking at 2018, here is what you could have:
PG: Simpson, Davison/Ryan
SG: Poole, Carmody
SF: Mathews, Cain, Watson (can hopefully backup the 2/3)
PF: Young, Johns
C: Wagner, Teske, Wagner
Thatâs 12 deep, so I suppose you could take both Davison and Ryan.
Still, thatâs a hypothetical roster that includes 8 kids from 2017/2018 - some of them wonât see the court for a little while, who knows how theyâll feel about that,
That also excludes Easley, who seems like heâs got a good shot at being part of the team.
Of course, that projection also assumes weâll land many of our top targets, something that hasnât happened for awhile. But I did try to keep it somewhat realistic as I also assume we land none of the five stars (Wilkes, Jackson, Bowen) we have offered.
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Sorry, meant Wagner, Teske and Davis at center.
Are you saying they could take Davison, Carmody, and Ryan? I was simply saying they could easily take Davison and Carmody (or Ryan, I suppose) â i.e., 2 of the 3.
I think they could, in theory, just not sure if those guys would all want to compete for the same minutes.
As Iâve said, I imagine the staff is a little leery of coming into 2017 with Simpson as the only guy with surefire point guard skills. So if they could get a commitment from Davison, Iâll bet they will take it.
But . . . I imagine they really like Ryan, too. Heâs tall, a good ballhandler, seemingly a true point, and he can shoot from distance - the type of guy Beilein loves. At the same time, I love Carmodyâs aggressiveness and his finishing ability at the rim, and heâs got a nice outside shot to boot - an offer seems like a no-brainer to me, and I think he could be really, really good.
So yeah, we might take all three. Would they all commit, given the competition at those positions? Hard to say. I suppose Ryan could, in theory, play some three. But then Watson might be the odd man out.
Gotcha, and yeah, thatâs why I donât think they will (or should) wait on Davison viz offering Carmody. Indeed, having a group of '16 (or functional equivalent) Simpson, Watson, Matthews, '17 Poole, Davison, and '18 Carmody, Ryan provides nice positional flexibility for the one through three spots â none of those guys other than Simpson is below 6â3" and at least a couple are 6â5"+. That doesnât include Cain, who of course is also in the mix at 3, but it has been hinted at might not be as interested in us if Matthews is in the fold. (I could be wrong about that and donât want to put words in anyoneâs mouth.) At some point guys may not want to compete for minutes, but you cross that bridge when you come to it.
I hear you. But I do think they want another 2017 primary ballhandler in the fold. So Iâm guessing maybe they wouldnât take a commitment from both Carmody and Ryan before having that in place.
We havenât heard from MattD on how Mathewsâ commitment may impact Cain. Iâm curious. I feel like both guys are pretty similar to Robinson and Hardaway, who played together with no problem. But someone has to guard the four if they play together.
Just my opinion - you donât wait on offering Ryan or Carmody because you think that if both commit it might scare off Davison. Just too many ifs there, and thatâs kind of what I mean about overthinking things and worrying too many steps ahead. And having a bit of a numbers crunch could even secure a commitment. But you may be right that itâs their plan, and thereâs also a difference between offering and then accepting a commitment if there are intervening events.