Following commit of transfer Duncan Robinson, #Michigan no longer pursuing 2015 La Lumiere 4-star SG Jalen Coleman http://t.co/CwqznDJVbo
— Kyle Bogenschutz (@KyleBogie) August 12, 2014
For a D3 player. I hope he is the next Stauskas like the optimist claim.
Lame.
Edit: To put more substance behind my post, I was already dreading the fact that we gave a scholarship to Robinson, but now that his commitment has ended our pursuit of Coleman (and possibly other 2015 wings) I can honestly say I am irked. We weren’t a lock with Jalen but I’d rather strike out with him, then gain the services of a former DIII player. But that’s my opinion anyways…
Everybody still on board with the Duncan commit now? You can take me off that train. Really shaking my head at this one. How do you sacrifice Jalen Coleman for Duncan Robinson? I know there will be many that say it was trending in the wrong direction with Coleman, but so what, you hold out for a guy like that, especially if the alternative is Robinson. I really have to wonder what the staff was thinking. No way can this be justified with the “we wanted Robinson” theory.
It’s almost as if we are recruiting against ourselves. Quite comical from an onlooker’s point of view, I’m sure.
well, it might be true that the staff stopped recruiting Coleman, but how does anyone outside the coaching staff know for sure that this is related to Robinson commitment? I assume that we are still going after dozier?
Everybody still on board with the Duncan commit now? You can take me off that train. Really shaking my head at this one. How do you sacrifice Jalen Coleman for Duncan Robinson? I know there will be many that say it was trending in the wrong direction with Coleman, but so what, you hold out for a guy like that, especially if the alternative is Robinson. I really have to wonder what the staff was thinking. No way can this be justified with the "we wanted Robinson" theory.
The coaches have said, from Day 1, that they want players who want to play for Michigan. Coleman visited multiple times and had all the opportunity in the world to commit. Yet he didn’t. That’s his loss. Beilein has built a formidable program and if Coleman wants to pass that up for a second tier team like Illinois or Notre Dame, that’s his prerogative. We’ll win without him.
Sure, DRobinson may end up being a step down from Coleman as an individual player. But basketball is a team sport, and if UM basketball over the past 5 years hasn’t beaten that into fans’ heads, I don’t know what will. You don’t need the best individual collection of individual talent - although UM will still have plenty - you need the best team. And if the coaches think Robinson will fit into that team concept better than Coleman, I believe them.
The chances of getting Dozier are almost nonexistent. You simply don’t give up on Coleman for a guy that is going to be a role player even at his absolute best. No excuses period
It's almost as if we are recruiting against ourselves. Quite comical from an onlooker's point of view, I'm sure.
The Illinois board I frequent is laughing because now Coleman might go there.
Everybody still on board with the Duncan commit now? You can take me off that train. Really shaking my head at this one. How do you sacrifice Jalen Coleman for Duncan Robinson? I know there will be many that say it was trending in the wrong direction with Coleman, but so what, you hold out for a guy like that, especially if the alternative is Robinson. I really have to wonder what the staff was thinking. No way can this be justified with the "we wanted Robinson" theory.
The staff sees Robinson as Mike Dunleavy Jr, who was amazing at Duke, http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/duke/mike-dunleavy-jr
even if there is a direct link, the coaching staff must view D Robinson much better than most of we would believe. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Everybody still on board with the Duncan commit now? You can take me off that train. Really shaking my head at this one. How do you sacrifice Jalen Coleman for Duncan Robinson? I know there will be many that say it was trending in the wrong direction with Coleman, but so what, you hold out for a guy like that, especially if the alternative is Robinson. I really have to wonder what the staff was thinking. No way can this be justified with the "we wanted Robinson" theory.The coaches have said, from Day 1, that they want players who want to play for Michigan. Coleman visited multiple times and had all the opportunity in the world to commit. Yet he didn’t. That’s his loss. Beilein has built a formidable program and if Coleman wants to pass that up for a second tier team like Illinois or Notre Dame, that’s his prerogative. We’ll win without him.
Sure, DRobinson may end up being a step down from Coleman as an individual player. But basketball is a team sport, and if UM basketball over the past 5 years hasn’t beaten that into fans’ heads, I don’t know what will. You don’t need the best individual collection of individual talent - although UM will still have plenty - you need the best team. And if the coaches think Robinson will fit into that team concept better than Coleman, I believe them.
Don’t buy this or why did they try to jump back in Brunson’s recruitment?
Everybody still on board with the Duncan commit now? You can take me off that train. Really shaking my head at this one. How do you sacrifice Jalen Coleman for Duncan Robinson? I know there will be many that say it was trending in the wrong direction with Coleman, but so what, you hold out for a guy like that, especially if the alternative is Robinson. I really have to wonder what the staff was thinking. No way can this be justified with the "we wanted Robinson" theory.The coaches have said, from Day 1, that they want players who want to play for Michigan. Coleman visited multiple times and had all the opportunity in the world to commit. Yet he didn’t. That’s his loss. Beilein has built a formidable program and if Coleman wants to pass that up for a second tier team like Illinois or Notre Dame, that’s his prerogative. We’ll win without him.
Sure, DRobinson may end up being a step down from Coleman as an individual player. But basketball is a team sport, and if UM basketball over the past 5 years hasn’t beaten that into fans’ heads, I don’t know what will. You don’t need the best individual collection of individual talent - although UM will still have plenty - you need the best team. And if the coaches think Robinson will fit into that team concept better than Coleman, I believe them.
I want to play for Michigan. I visit roughly 15 times per year. Do you want me to suit up? That logic isn’t too solid in my opinion.
You have it wrong my friend, this is OUR loss, not Coleman’s. fact is that our team simply isn’t as good with Robinson as they would’ve been with Coleman. The other fact is that Coleman will make the team he chooses better than Robinson will make UM. This is what you call opportunity cost and the staff made a very poor decision in my view.
Everybody still on board with the Duncan commit now? You can take me off that train. Really shaking my head at this one. How do you sacrifice Jalen Coleman for Duncan Robinson? I know there will be many that say it was trending in the wrong direction with Coleman, but so what, you hold out for a guy like that, especially if the alternative is Robinson. I really have to wonder what the staff was thinking. No way can this be justified with the "we wanted Robinson" theory.The staff sees Robinson as Mike Dunleavy Jr, who was amazing at Duke, http://statsheet.com/mcb/players/player/duke/mike-dunleavy-jr
I actually said he looked like a poor mans version of Dunleavy, but the emphasis was on the term poor. This is simply baffling no matter what justification is spit out
Sadly expected after the Robinson commitment. From what I read, the coaches were very high on Robinson as a player, though I cannot speak to why. I think there is still an outside shot with Dozier, especially since he wants to play PG, but I won’t hold my breath.
even if there is a direct link, the coaching staff must view D Robinson much better than most of we would believe. I will give them the benefit of the doubt.
Can’t have the benefit of the doubt with me when you make a decision like this.
I’m not usually a stickler for high ranking recruits, but I will take a 4 star player over Duncan Robinson 10/10 times. We are not going to see the effects of this decision for another 1-2 years (if not more), but if we continue this trend of only gaining commitments from what I consider to be low to mid major division talent, we are going to be in for a rude awakening eventually.
The chances of getting Dozier are almost nonexistent. You simply don't give up on Coleman for a guy that is going to be a role player even at his absolute best. No excuses period
It is not about our chance of getting Dozier, it is about whether they have stopped recruiting 2015. If they continue pursuing Dozier but stop recruiting Coleman, either there is something they do not like about Coleman or they think that the chance with Coleman is even less than with Dozier.
I am not convinced that Robinson is more than a role player but if the coaching staff think that he is, I am fine with it for now.
Coleman had his shot, knew entirely what Michigan is about. Has visited other schools.
I don’t disagree with what the coaches did one bit.
Plus kid was/is leaning to ND… Over UM? Toodles…we got a replacement and will fill another SG spot with an elite in '16 IMO.
And Dozier is not far fetched. Get him on campus.
Nothing to do with stars for me, it’s about talent. It is very evident from the film that Robinson is nowhere near as talented as Coleman, who is 2-3 years younger as well. You simply don’t sacrifice A talent of Coleman’s caliber for the likes of a player that is going to be 7-8th man off the bench. That is what you call baffling.
Also, I would fully expect a similar thread could be made about Eric Davis with the commitment of Robinson, as he and Coleman were basically both offered the same spot.