Michigan Players in the NBA

He WAS a good player at Michigan. I didn’t say he wasn’t. But, for context here, Poole shot 32.7% as a soph in conference play whereas Caleb Houstan shot 39%. And when thet both left, many people here said the exact same things: not ready, shoulda come back.

Personally I think Poole is way more talented but here’s hoping that Houstan blows up in the NBA too and a few years from now we’ll all be lionizing him too and have forgotten that he too had weaknesses and they were on display and observable.

Basically the eval of Poole for a lot of people is that U-M lost those games to MSU and he made some bad mistakes in key moments in both. That seems to skew people away from everything that he did well that year.

Those three losses were PAINFUL. He did make some bad mistakes in the latter two in particular that I remember. But if there are people who can only remember the bad, I think that this thread shows there are also people who can only remember the good. There’s a Goldilocks take between those two extremes.

A great example of why small sample size raw shooting stats without context tell a fairly limited story.

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Other limited stories: "Poole is very mature’'. “Poole doesn’t play D”. “Poole ranked in the 92nd percentile in ball screen scoring efficiency”. “Poole is uncoachable” (not my words)

The good thing is that there are many data points available that can all be combined into something a lot more nuanced than a hot take or a half-baked reaction.

The Ringer posted a piece ranking the NBA “young cores” (a typical pre-season content filler if there ever was one). Poole gets a lot of good publicity in it, Diabate gets a positive mention, and Franz is spoken of highly if briefly. Somewhat to my surprise, Caleb Houstan doesn’t get a single mention. Obviously the Magic have a lot of young players to talk about and they spend their time discussing how one of their young guards needs to play well, but still thought he might get a mention.

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I cannot wait to see just how good Franz can become. He’s got perennial all star written all over him IMO.

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Well their criteria is U25, and by my measure, they have like 7 guys better or with higher upside than Houstan?

Banchero
Wagner
Suggs
Okeke
Anthony
Carter
Fultz
Maybe Bamba?

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All because I wore my green Pumas.

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Yeah, going to be a battle for him to earn NBA minutes this year. Will be interesting to follow him.

FWIW- Houstan shot a combined 2-11 in his first three NBA preseason games before going 5-6 (3-4 from 3) in his most recent game.

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Don’t think he made shots in summer league either

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I liked how the roster fits in Orlando with Franz and Paolo which allows Cole Anthony to play his game without trying to be a playmaker. They probably can get away without a true PG because of Franz and Paolo as a creator

DJ Wilson waived

:eyes:

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He got the bag and it’s more than Herro. I expected Herro’s contract to be the baseline and it turned out to be true. Good for Poole.

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The way one establishes that he doesn’t dislike Poole is to not grab every opportunity to diminish him. I suspect you think its providing balance. It is not.

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He’s actually in the same place as Herro - it’s $123 mil guaranteed, the other $17 mil is incentives.

How much of Herro’s contract is incentives?

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Crazy to see it like this.

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Their guaranteed figures are $123 for Poole, $120 for Herro over 4 years