I’m not too concerned about him eventually going to the pros - that probably means he’s just done really well. My main concern is that it may be an adjustment for him to go back to college after 25 years in the NBA. College players are younger, less mature, need more teaching, and obviously have to be recruited - how ready is he to make that adjustment?
Variance is a real thing. Luck is a real thing. People don’t “lose all credibility” when they bring it up, maybe to you, but that’s like, your opinion.
I have no connections to Shaka to be biased and make excuses for him, so it’s a genuine opinion. If you flip a coin 4 times and get tails 4 times, it would be by chance, and it’s also possible. I’m citing the metrics to say that Shaka has indeed flipped tails 4 straight years being ranked at the very bottom of a largely random metric - luck. He’s also hasn’t had his starting PG for half of his tenure.
I’ve already answered your question, and I’m sure others have as well. You just keep discounting these arguments and circling back to your question, to which again, I (or other people) will answer the same way.
I’m not sure the individuals knew that’s why they were there.
I have compared Shaka to Amaker earlier. At the best Shaka is an upgraded version of Amaker, who has dominated Ivy since left Michigan.
Lucky or not, lack of X and O, in game adjustment and player development are real concerns. an A recruiter but B- in other categories.
I think more highly of him, but that’s definitely reasonable.
Howard on the other hand is unknown in basically all areas.
I think if Howard comes on board we don’t retain Yak. If Shaka is hired we have a fair chance to retain Yak. No LaVall for me!
Since that’s off the board for JH, at this point I’d assume that all 3 presumed candidates would take the Michigan job. If that’s the case it’s all up to Warde now.
I just want to clarify in case it is not clear: when people here are discussing “Luck” it is not an amorphous concept, but a factor both Barthag and Kenpom track (one calls it FUN (Factors Unexplained by Numbers)). It is an expression of performance their statistical models can’t quantify. IE, the teams performance is appreciably worse than the statistical drivers both sides track to measure good performance.
Missing Andrew Jones, the 5 PG from his 2016 class, who averaged 11 PPG his freshman year, plays a large hand in things. Take away Zavier from UM this year. How many games do we win? On your luck question, KenPom quantifies bad luck on his site. Texas ranked 332nd this year, 263rd last year, and 348th in luck the last three years. So, yeah, Shaka has been very unlucky.
As someone with two kids in HS who are high level prospects, I’m guessing he understands those things.
Tossing a coin is 100% random and out of the control of the person doing the tossing. Not so with the outcome of basketball games, so your analogy fails. Bad “luck” may explain one meh season, maybe even two, but when you’re up to four in a row and still pleading bad “luck”, wouldn’t you also want to consider other explanations for why Smart is getting mediocre results with allegedly elite talent? Do you acknowledge that there ARE other explanations, and that you have no way of actually knowing how much of a factor they are?
Luck evens out. For instance, a basketball coach who has consistently bad luck is lucky to have a job coaching basketball.
Yes, I know KenPom tries to rate what’s called “luck. But you can just as easily call it “the extent to which their statistical analysis fails to adequately predict this team’s performance”. Or “we’re assuming that our statistical analysis is pretty much perfect, and any significant deviation from that must be because of ‘luck’, not inadequacy in our analysIs”.
Yak can help him, but Shaka needs more help on the offensive side. Jordan will definitely retained Yak and might work out well, but Yak will likely move on in a couple of years anyway.I think a lot of Yak fans has put too much stake in retaining Yak as an assistant.
You realize recruiting doesn’t just “not count” if the on court success isn’t there, right? That makes absolutely zero sense. Your question has the logic of asking “if California’s gas prices are so high, why is Ford hurting so much from tariffs in foreign countries?” Clause B does not logically follow clause A in any way.
I literally say in my post “I agree that shaka’s results aren’t good for the talent.” Do you not read a single thing after the first line in the posts you reply to?
You somehow find a way to get pissy about my post saying that his objectively elite recruiting is elite, his objectively good “four NBA players in four years” is good, and that, in my opinion, his results don’t match up as they should to either of those things, which is the exact conclusion you drew while using fake news like “Mo Bamba is his only NBA player!” as your reasoning.
maybe someone tell Warde to consult an astrologist before making his decision.
Why do you think our hiring of Howard means no hiring of Yak?
So I’ll ask again, since you dodged the question a second time: If he’s such an elite recruiter, why have his teams at Texas been so mediocre?
If you’re not capable of providing a direct, honest answer to that question, just say so.
If you want to fight just private message him. Leave it out of here.