Detroit Pistons & NBA Talk

He was over 50% as a junior and 40% as a senior. He definitely made shots at MVA.

Realistically though, high school and college is always a relatively low sample size just due to shorter schedule, shorter games, longer shot clocks. It can all get wonky. But it was mostly a consensus from my memory that the shot was going to translate for him.

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So if you’re just building a shot from scratch, then yes definitely going to teach arc. I always preferred back of the rim as focus for this reason, as well as watching ball after release. All little tricks to get the ball up a little higher. It’s more common to see someone who’s struggling with shooting to be too flat, rather than too much arc. Arc gives you more margin for error and more likely to get rim action. But too much arc and you just start removing that margin for error because you’re creating extra distance the ball moves in the air. Sam Hauser on the Celtics struggles with this a ton.

Once guys hit this level of success, it’s a massive undertaking to mess with anyone’s mechanics. You can genuinely make things much worse. It takes a really long time to adapt to a point where in game, you’re more confident in the new form than you are in what got you there.

There’s basic tenets that should be in any shot. Alignment on the strong side of your body from foot, knee and elbow all aimed towards target whether that’s squared off or shooting leg ahead. Shooting off the finger tips, limiting side to side action, follow through with arm in the rim.

But talent and reps can make up for things and if someone hits shots, you don’t mess with it. You’d never teach anyone to shoot a basketball the way Reggie Miller did, but you’d never change his shot either. All depends how detrimental the unconventional aspect of the shot is. Like, Lonzo Ball has really good touch shooting the ball to where he could time up a left to right motion relatively consistently. But there’s a ceiling to how consistent you can be shooting like that unless you’re basically Steph. So reworking it made a lot of sense, and he probably hated life for those first few months.

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I dk, my familiarity comes entirely from the baseball side where a lot of the success that’s happened has occurred bc we moved away from verbal cues and toward measured outcome feedback. Ball movement, spin amount, and spin direction measurement, slow motion cameras of ball spin and hand movement, constraint drills to isolate certain aspects of the movement to improve efficiency, etc.

The devices I’ve heard of focus on this stuff but the big success stories are much less reported on afaik.

I’m still going to believe that line until Roddy Gayle isn’t playing at Michigan. Then maybe I’ll realize it’s not true.

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valid strategy but mine is the opposite. once he’s gone, I’ll totally believe it next time

But I don’t see how it’s easier to inbound from halfcourt. You now have the issue of backcourt violations and your inbounder can’t move, whereas he could run the baseline if it’s after a made basket. And since you’re inbounding in less of the court, it’s harder for a receiving player to get a lot of separation.

I suspect coaches advance the ball mainly out of fear of a turnover turning into a quick score. If you turn it over in the front court it may be less catastrophic.

I think the mechanics of a jump shot are just a pretty simple thing at the end of the day. It’s the same 4 or 5 basic mechanics for everyone, and then things like speed, release point, arc and load up can vary based on what’s comfortable. The only training, through my own experience and what I’ve seen, is just aligning the basic tenets with an individual player’s comfortability as much as possible.

Every player in the league shoots it extremely well cuz it just isn’t that hard if you rep it hundreds of thousands of times. What separates good vs great at the NBA level is god given shooting touch, and the ability to do the proper shot prep in the really short window that you’re open. The majority of jump shots miss because of misaligned footwork when you catch the ball at an imperfect angle and have to get it up quick.

3 of the Eastern Conference teams have been eliminated, yet the Pistons/NYK are still playing. Aside from refereeing, it’s a great series for the neutral observers. It’s a physical series. I can see it going to game 7.

Weird fact about the Pistons/NYK matchup this season, the road team is 7-2.

Cade said they’re bringing it back for game 7.

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If the refs had gotten the Hardaway call right, my Pistons in 6 prediction would be looking really good right now.

It’ll be Pistons in 7. Beasley said so and I believe him.