His bets kinda did payoff though, watson and braun have been really good replacing brown and kcp(both kcp and brown have been bad since denver too). Booths issue was dumb extensions, then spending assets having to dump some of them and in the process killing flexibility.
Itâs also just hard. You have to pay Jokic and he costs a bajillion dollars. You had a chance to win a title and had to pay Porter/Murray to get there, and you won a title. Just now youâre stuck with the bill. a bummer that prime Jokic is stuck like this but at the same time thatâs how the NBA works right now. You have tight windows in most cases and have to maximize those
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A killer gm would have traded porter summer post title imo, he had really good value then. Those were the hard choices Denver continually chose not to do. Not playing hardball with murray this past off season was a choice too.
Ivey, Harris and 7 first round picks for Jokic this summer âŚ
playing hardball with your major stars is something that generally doesnât work unfortunately waving at Jimmy Butler
Crazy that Luka got traded, Jenkins and Malone got fired right before the playoff and weâre not in the playoff season yet!
My Denver friend said he wasnât into it this year. Seemed to have burned out.
I think I get the logic of canning Malone generally
less to do with Malone and more âthe roster is the roster, Malone canât get them to a title (maybe this is not his fault), may as well see if someone else can wring some more juice from this rockâ while you have one of the two best players in the league
thatâs more of an off season thing though, I donât get this
I guess my deal is mostly âYeah, Malone didnât deserve to get fired, but in the words of Will Munny âDeserveâs got nothinâ to do with it.'â
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Calvin Bootheâs seat might be hot? Thatâs the rumor FWIW
Well he got fired too, so Iâd say âscaldingâ
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The real problem is the Murray deal. I guess they should have played hardball, but see why it was hard to do.
Porterâs deal isnât great, but itâs not completely franchise breaking.
Gordon is still a deal.
Yeah except neither of those are real stars though
weâll have to agree to disagree regarding Butler. Maybe not today, but still a player with a pretty colossal impact on winning games.
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My recollection is they just let KCP walk to be cheaper to stay out of the 2nd apron in the event of a Gordon extension. Brownâs a different story, they couldnât match Indianaâs offer. And I think KCP wouldâve been just fine in Denver this year.
The young guys outside of Braun seem very meh to me and Iâm not particularly into Braun either.
Iâm not sure any of that is Boothâs fault per se bc the Kroenkes hate paying the tax. Getting MPJ for cheaper is prob the original sin there. Murray too perhaps?
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Wait, how did I miss this news as well?!?!?
I donât have any problem with firing Malone, but thereâs no information you learned keeping Malone this year either. If youâre firing him now you shouldâve fired him a while ago.
Yeah, I think you make this move when the season ends
Like the only argument not to, that I can think of, is that he gets you to the conference or NBA finals and then your hands are tied
but if you tihnk thatâs happening you probably shouldnât be firing him lol
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yeah I think a considerable part of the âproblemâ here is the Kroenkes, but hard to fire owners unless they parade around in Nazi regalia or something
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right and thatâs prob where i land on Booth. you canât just max extend your guys in a 2nd apron universe and have the Kroenkes as owners. but that wouldâve meant playing hardball or getting creative w Murray.
i think itâs also to some extent a talent distribution thing? Jokic is far and away their best player. and the better your peak the longer your peak. the Nuggets needed all of Gordon, Murray, KCP, and MPJ to not get any worse and none of them were good enough for that to be true in the aggregate.
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I sort of think that Murray is the real sin
heâs basically never been an all-star, and his main asset is chemistry with Jokic, which you only have to be a teensy bit cynical to rephrase âchemistryâ as âlook how much better Jokic makes him than he is in isolationâ
a maxxxx extension is a ton for a guy who has never been an all-star much less all-nba
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