According to Derrick Bodner, who combed the injury databases that go back 34 years
There have been 16 orbital bone (the thing around your eye socket) fractures in the NBA in this time, which encompasses about 15,000 player-seasons.
With last night, THREE of these are Joel Embiid
The Pistons have 2 open roster spots and under the salary floor which means the next move is coming soon. The rumor is Vuc is the trade target. I hope itâs not for a FRP which would be an overpay.
Why in earth are they getting Vuc lol
What a horrible idea
Pistons are in a weird spot at this point where they have a guy they believe in as a potential star. Heâs in year 4 and just signed an extension. They need to start growing before that guy demands a trade.
Itâs just too late in their process to tank really. So if you can add a guy for cheap, I think can make sense. Pistons desperately need a #2 offensive option.
Ok so they should get a #2 option, where is he in this trade
Are the bulls throwing in Zach LaVine?
Getting a 34 year old waiting to be crushed under the weight or shoot regression, at which point he reverts to a 0.0 BPM player owed $21 mil next year
No thanks
Iâm not saying they should tank
My guess is youâd say that Lavine is a #1 offensive option for the Pistons! Pistons arenât trying to win a title this year. They just want another guy on the roster who has proven he can score points on his own and spread the floor for Cade so he can continue to grow and not get overburdened.
Best case scenario for them in the next two years in 8 seed.
Vuc canât spread the floor!
Look at his past three seasons, heâs a bad shooter riding a heater at the moment
Cade is very obviously a much better offensive player (and defensive) than Lavine
Vuc is worthless, I mean that literally.
Theyâve been trying to get a first rounder for him for a year and nobody bites, perhaps thatâs instructive
If they trade a first rounder, iâll be upset
I just think giving anything of value for the privilege, best case, of getting boosted from going on the road in the play-in to hosting is extraordinarily short-sighted
But âshort-sightedâ and âPistonsâ are in a committed relationship
Why would you cut Reed instead of sending him along as salary?
And yeah being interested in Vuc would have me massively downgrading Langdon after what I thought was a bunch of solid to good work to start his tenure. He is as MGL says totally worthless. I canât imagine the salary you could send out that would make it worth it to roster him.
If the cost is âsome chum level second roundersâ I guess I would shrug and move along
But anything of valueâŚ.
My guess is Reed got cut because their trading partner doesnât want his salary
But almost anything you send out is going to be better to have. Not like theyâre sending out Wiseman and Bagley anymore.
If they have the cap room to eat him they donât need to send anything out
Edit: theyâd need to send out about $7 mil
So likeâŚMalik Beasley? Fotecchio?
Just saw this tweet and I think it reflects my thoughts lol
https://x.com/traeshmaen/status/1867649845705814493?s=46&t=x9JET_JE7PuOWZgTVXX-MQ
Not sure the Bulls should want to take a career below average TS% guy back
I guess my hot take is the Pistons are prob doing OK on this rebuild? If Ausar and Holland are complete whiffs thatâs a problem but Ivey, Duren, and Stewart are on pace to be pretty typical starters. If they keep making decent picks I think theyâll be in a decent spot.
It prob wonât be impressive but itâs good enough compared to where theyâve been. Not that hard to see a 4-6 seed?
This OKC-Houston game is looking like Pacers-Pistons circa 2004
Detroit canât trade a 1st round pick until 2028. Highly unlikely any deal would include that.
Totally agree with @mgl that Vuc would be a horrible acquisition.
In case it wasnât clear:
I think that the Pistons core group (Cunningham, Ivey, Duren, Thompson, Stewart, Holland) can become an actual playoff team on their current trajectory
I think they have a non-zero chance of doing that this year!
My problem here is twofold:
If this trade is successful, ie, Vuc keeps shooting 46% from 3 or whatever his current rate is, and the Pistons get the player for whom they are trading, that trajectory above gets moved from, what, âmight make the play-in this yearâ to âprobably makes the play-in this yearâ? I donât think thatâs a change worth spending any real asset of value on.
I donât think this trade would succeed in that extremely modest goal! I mean this sincerely - Vuc would not even clearly be the second best center on the Pistonsâ roster. He is a horrific defender. Prior to his tear he had shot 31% on his previous 998 three point attempts dating back three seasons. He has not reliably made threes since the pandemic. Even now, shooting 47% from three, most of the advanced all-in-ones rate him as roughly net neutral, and terribly negative in prior years. His points per game and rebounds per game look attractive, but he is not good.
Where did the Vuc rumor come from? I havenât seen that.