My worry with Dick is that he might be too slight to guard 3s and too slow to guard 2s. Caveat that I didn’t watch Kansas much. I did like him as a player when I did see them play.
James Edwards seems to think the Pistons will take Ausar.
James Edwards has been convinced Detroit would take Cam, Ausar, Walker, and trade the pick so far in his pre-draft articles. He’s hoping somebody moves the dartboard and one of them ends up a bullseye.
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He’s 19. He doesn’t have a sleight frame, he’s just skinny. I’m not that worried about it
I’ve seen concerns about his D, but I think 6’8" is a good start on defense honestly. He’s a measurement clone of what Klay Thompson was after his junior year (I am not saying he is Klay Thompson)
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Givony explicitly said the shift to Walker to the Pistons was based on “intel” not his evaluation
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I’m in the mindset of moving Amen in the next tier.
The issue is he’s been hunted on defense in college. He’s a good team defender but 1 on 1, he’s not great due to his foot speed and lateral quickness.
were they going to hunt DaJuan Harris? Kevin McCullar? Yeah, the worst guy gets hunted - he was the worst guy on the 13th best defense in the country playing next to 4 plus defenders.
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I think talking big boards and BPA, I’ve slowly come around to Amen being #4 or even #3 (if I’m being objective I have a hard time being as positive about Miller as others - I think he’s a lot like Dick, just better physical tools, but I don’t see a surefire STAR there, just a good player). Amen obviously has bust potential but he’s probably got the 3rd highest STAR potential in the draft.
People talking their way out of Scoot #2 are just playing themselves, IME.
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You are saying Grady Dick is basically Brandon Miller? 
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I’m saying they both profile int he NBA as of the catch shooters
The peak comparisons I’ve seen for Miller are Paul George and for Dick its Klay Thompson, and aside from length they’re pretty similar players.
Dude, no haha come on, PG and Klay are nothing alike.
quality-defending jump-shooters? Just add height and wingspan for George. Both on their career have attempted not many shots at the rim (18-19% of shots?) tons from 3 (43-45% of shots) and thus similar from midrange. George has created about 10% more of his shots than Thompson (and Miller probably has a similar edge on Dick?)
I don’t think it’s a nuts way of looking at it.
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I wonder how much Ausar is being buoyed by Amen. I see the star upside with Amen because he has elite athleticism and playmaking but Ausar as a SF is comparatively so meh. Doesn’t have the same athleticism and has trouble finishing at the rim. I like his feel and measurables but I don’t think we’re mocking him at top 5 if his brother’s not there.
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Miller did way more stuff on the ball at Alabama. Much more of a secondary creator whereas Dick is a movement shooter IMO.
The George/Thompson comps make sense for both guys, but I think the hold up here is that those two guys are nothing alike.
George creates his own shots, Thompson is a movement guy.
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Most of what I’ve read, people aren’t hot on Miller’s passing, so I I wonder how that plays (who knows)
They’re both high volume three point shooters, that’s my primary point here. The scouts I’ve read see Miller as a possession finisher, not a creator, and thus we’re just debating how their threes are set up.
Feel like there are some pretty huge differences between the first two charts (Klay/Gradey) here and the second two (George/Miller).
The “how” behind the shot profile matters a ton. It’s like comparing Hunter Dickinson and Tyger Campbell because they both make a ton of unassisted 13 footers.
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Just using it as a very basic example of how shot profiles/locations don’t always show enough data. Obviously it is over the top to illustrate the point. The actions the shots come out of say a lot about how each player actually gets those shots.
Maybe the argument is Bama over emphasizes that stuff based on scheme and he can’t do it in the NBA but he’s still way ahead of what GD has shown in those areas.
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OK. I guess I’d note that prior go going to the Clippers, nearly 20% more of George’s threes were assisted (I don’t have the shot tracking site) - up to 80-82%, compared to Klay’s 90% for his career. George has always created more of his shots (and has done so more in the last few years), but in OKC and Indiana he did shoot his threes off the catch significantly more.
I won’t claim to have seen Miller more than…3 times? and Dick more than 5-6.
Troy’s Presser today:
