Right or wrong (I personally think it’s fine) the Pistons are going unproven (aka cheap) route on the coach it seems
I think often the first time/elevated assistants work out just as well as a retread veteran so why not
That said, the Ollie thing is weirder to me because he’s not that young and his experience is either not particularly encouraging or not very consequential
It seems fine. This is the hire before, if all goes very well, The Hire. They are hiring Moses right now, the guy to get them to the border of the promised land.
I mean they tried with proven coaches who has won before with SVG and Casey. They’re going the opposite direction to try swing big instead of cycling through retreads.
The biggest thing I look for the coach is X’s and O’s and player development. Both are of utmost importance for the franchise since the roster is full of young players with not much experience.
I don’t think they see this as the “hire before the hire.” At least, I hope they don’t. They need to go get the next star coach.
Yeah that’s kind of my point. A young coach doesn’t mean he’s a developmental guy. Casey was a huge part of the Raptors eventual success - he was a good developmental hire for the Pistons! SVG was a huge hire and mostly flopped. The fact that White and Quinn aren’t current head coaches doesn’t make them the hire before the hire.
I mean - the Pistons and Weaver can’ really mess around with this much longer, the time to start showing progress is next year.
I am 100% fine with them fishing in the cheaper assistant waters, and I’d much rather seem them do that than knock on Jeff Van Gundy’s door, or hire a handsome NBA studio host (sorry Chauncey).
The Athletic’s James L Edwards III thinks the Pistons might take Miller over Scoot as of now:
For now, at this moment in time, there is a world where I see the Pistons having Miller as the second prospect on their big board.
Gross!
Meh… he also said the 5th guy on their board would be Anthony Black. I’m not sure how a 6-7 guard who isn’t a great shooter is a fit on Detroit with Cade Cunningham and Jaden Ivey. If you want to take a risk on a 6-7 guard type who can’t shoot, I’d definitely take one of the Thompsons.
He also said a few weeks back to not be surprised if the Pistons traded their pick if they fell to 4-5.
If I were any team in this draft outside of the top two I’d be trying to move down
Which probably means it will be hard to move down
James Edwards takes a lot of shots. 2 years ago he said Weaver liked Green so much he was willing to pick him ahead of Cade.
Trying to pin down Troy Weaver’s draft day is a fools errand
Right now he has a white board of a three team seven player deal where every single player gets cut by their receiving team but the Pistons save $600k in payroll
He says a lot of things. He also said Jalen Green would be ranked ahead of Cade. Same with Keegan Murray over Jaden Ivey though we’ll never know if both players are available at #5 if the Kings passed on both players.
He also proposed trading away #5 for DeAndre Hunter which I do not like. Might as well keep the #5 pick and go for the high upside prospect.
Awesome thread about Jaden Ivey’s shooting progression over the season. He’s going to be a star for the Pistons.
Maybe he was talking about Killian Hayes for Hunter. Trash for severely mediocre is good, right?
If it’s on the table, I’m going to say yes before the Hawks change their mind. That being said, Hayes has zero trade value. They’ll just let it ride until his contract runs out and let him walk. He’s a negative value on offense despite the fact he can pass but it doesn’t matter when the team is playing 4 on 5 whenever he’s on court due to him being a non-shooter.
A great rubric for “is my lottery point guard draft pick trash” is seeing how much of the positive press is regarding their defense.
Additionally, my power-ranking view of the Pistons “YOUNG CORE”
NR: Bagley, Hayes (less my crusade against these two than the fact that I don’t think they are part of the young core)
I more or less hate to advocate this, but i think you’re undervaluing Bags. Strongly agree that he is not real good and undeniable that he is overpaid, but I do think it is hard to say he isn’t a rotation level player currently, and as such, I’m not sure you can rank him behind Wiseman.
He’s a rotation level offensive player
I think him and Wiseman are (disturbingly) similar. Big counting stats, but his team just bleeds points when they’re on the floor
The Bucks just fired Coach Bud. If I’m Troy Weaver, I’m getting right on the phone to call him.
I’m guessing the price tag is higher than they’d want based on their prior targets