Detroit Pistons & NBA Talk (Part 1)

I was thinking about this earlier cuz I too was sad that we start three of our actual likely starters and we were getting ran off the floor by Cam Whitmore

But I convinced myself that an extra shooter (or even Beef Stew) in place of Wiseman next to Duren will be as influential as Cade being super duper star.

Loved Ivey today. He wasn’t totally blind to getting others involved and picked his spots nicely. Love Ausar in general. Dude fills the stat sheet while literally never playing as a primary option. Invaluable. Love Duren. Some Bam like tendencies blossoming there.

Everything else is a mess but when you put actual NBA players around those three I’m still optimistic they won’t be the worst team in the league anymore.

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One of the concerns I have is that Ivey and Ausar together seem significantly more lethal in transition than in the half court and Cade……seems like the total opposite

Cade can pass on the run so I don’t think he’ll have trouble finding those two with hit ahead passes. (And in the half court, I think he’ll hit Ausar for some of those alley oops that Ivey didn’t see.)

I think taking any lessons as to what the offense looks like with Wiseman and Duren at the 4 and 5 along with Thompson is a fools errand

As messed up their spacing was this year, that is SUPER messed up

My assumption is that Thompson will start coming off the bench and will generally not share the floor with two other non-shooters

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Cade doesn’t like running really

One of the things that’s good about Ausar is that he’ll unleash Ivey’s transition

Why is Ausar a likely starter? That doesn’t seem super likely to me

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Have you seen his competition?

There are definitely starting lineup combinations I could see that don’t include Ausar. I could see them trotting out a lineup of:

Cade
Ivey
Bogey
Stewart
Duren

or

Morris
Ivey
Cade
Bogey
Duren

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It would shock me if Stew and Bogey were not starting.

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Wishful thinking and moreso saying longterm. He does way too many winning things to be a bench guy for long IMO.

I’d put dollars to donuts game 1 starting lineup has Harris and Bogie at the 3 and 4.

I kinda like what they have. Amen, Eason and Jabari should be good defenders even if Sengun is a liability. They have some shooters in Green and Jabari (and Sengun is pretty good for a five.) Amen and Sengun are your playmakers. Smith and Green your scorers and you can have Whitmore be a chucker off the bench.

I even like their overpaying for a couple of babysitters for a few years before they have to extend some of these guys.

Intrigued to see how it will play out.

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I would like that lineup, but it would shock me if that’s what they do. The org is very overly loyal/committed to Stewart and have put a lot of propaganda work into selling him as a stretch 4. And the organization mouthpiece, James Edwards III of the Athletic, has published this as the projected depth chart.

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If Ausar Thompson is the 5th guy at the 2/3, I’d riot

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switch bagley and wiseman right?

I dk if they’ll actually do this but makes sense to me that they should be strictly thinking in terms of lineups rather than depth charts. Even if you don’t start Ausar, need to think about how Ausar + Cade + Ivey could work. Then how Ausar + Cade/Ausar + Ivey/Cade + Ivey lineups work, then what you’d like to see with just 1 on the floor.

All of those vets they signed should be in service of making all of the Cade/Ausar/Ivey combinations doable on offense.

I’ve neglected Duren even tho I like him bc I suspect he can kind of just make it work for the most part. Like, I’ll guess that if you want Cade + Ivey + Ausar, you prob need Bojan and Stewart as your 4 & 5. But under basically any other configuration, I think he can be the 5.

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Yeah, I agree with this, I think the whole season really revolves around figuring out how good Cade and Ivey (lesser degree Ausar due to youth) and what “type” of player you need to play next to that threesome, or just pairs of Cade/Ivey, Cade/Thomspon, Ivey/Thompson

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His passing is really exciting

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Also Jaden heard the conspiracy rumors from @buckets12

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He really did make like three outwardly unselfish extra passes to Ausar in game 2. Was great to see and also hilarious to watch after he just couldn’t find him wide open on the break 10+ times in game 1

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