College Basketball Open Discussion

Yup I think more and more you’re gonna want a coach who knows how to do things in this new landscape of college hoops. As the old OGs get phased out, Juwan is one of the first coaches to have come up in this landscape, and he surely has excelled in it so far.

He’s killing them at this point. They might have a good year this year though. I could see Boheim retiring after this

Buddy is a senior so presumably he will retire after this year… unless Buddy returns for year 5

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We still don’t know exactly what the lanscape will look like. K has adapted through paradigm shifts before; he won his first titles with teams built on future NBA draft picks that stayed all four years. He won his last with three one-and-done first-round picks. So he has learned to adapt.

But the paradigm shift now in progress is at least as significant. The combination of the as-yet unknown effects of NIL rights, the emerging professional alternatives to college, and the new transfer-friendly world will change the way rosters are built in ways that are not yet easy to discern, and after 40+ years he no longer has the time to roll with this. Already we are seeing teams like Kentucky rapidly switch gears in roster construction; it might take a few years to see what the best path is to winning, and he doesn’t have time for that.

Juwan seems well-suited for the new era, but we’ll see how things go. Early returns are really good.

I think that comment from the source close to Coach K should be read less as “old guy can’t adapt” but rather “old guy is cranky that he may lord slightly less power over 18-21 year olds, blames inevitable retirement on that”.

I am sorry, but the guy who appeared in an entire American Express ad campaign in which he discussed his status as “a leader of men” quitting his career because the people whose work and effort put him in the place to MAKE that endorsement may get to make some money, and those “men” he “leads” now have the option to not play for him anymore…

I’m dying laughing.

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I don’t believe the AD has any actual say in choosing the next coach. Coach K has earned the right to name his successor and he’s the one who’s going to choose him. It probably factors into why he’s announced that he’s stepping down now. It preempts a national search when the replacement can be named a year in advance.

There might be some unhappy with not going after a big name, but It’s unimaginable that any AD would go to war with him over this.

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I mean, of course the AD is responsible for the ultimate decision, but you’re probably right that K was given full carte blanche.

If I was AD I would say thanks for the input and I will take your thoughts into consideration and will hire somebody after you retire.

The AD is the one that will get fired if the next coach does not work out, not K.

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That might work if Coach K doesn’t have much support among the administration and boosters. Think that the AD can win a power struggle vs Coach K? I don’t. And this would be about the issue most important to coach K, who is trying to orchestrate a smooth transition.

If the AD really thinks that fight is a good idea, he’s not the person for that job. He has to know his role, and in this case it’s not to try and exert his authority over Coach K.

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I’m not sure what the argument is about - he’s getting his way.

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No offense, but there is no power struggle with a retired coach. That coach no longer has any power.

And if an AD is willing to hire whoever a old retiring coach wants to replace them, well they aren’t qualified to be the AD in the first place.

The examples of hand picked successors being good hires long term are so small as to be good evidence of why it should never be allowed to happen. If old coach gets to stay as long as they want and name their successor, your athletic department deserves the terrible outcomes that will follow.

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yep, Duke is getting arm twisted into making a bad hire. Good for us, bad for them.

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The boosters and K and AD I’m sure are all part and parcel. You don’t get the AD job without it.

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No offense, but it’s silly to just call Coach K a retired coach. He’s the biggest name in Duke athletics x100. It’s fair to wonder if Duke basketball would be anything special without him. If you don’t think he wields a lot of influence there, I don’t know what to say.

Coach K’s successor make not be the greatest choice. He’ll be known as Coach K’s pick, not the AD’s. If Coach K hung around forever and was eventually forced to retire, he might not have the power to choose his successor. But he didn’t and he does.

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I know he wields influence. I am pointing out objectively why the AD is the wrong man for the job if he lets him call the shots.

I am old enough to understand why things work the way they do. I am smart enough to understand why it is a bad idea. If Duke had a real AD, coach K would announce his upcoming retirement and they would spend the next 6-9 months identifying and interviewing candidates to replace him.

You guys are saying that the AD is the “wrong man for the job,” and that if the AD fights this, “he’s not the person for the job.”

But that’s not true at all; Duke’s AD is stepping down at the end of the summer to be replaced by the freshly announced Nina King, a promotion with some social significance, and more importantly a promotion announced less than a month ago.

There’s absolutely no way all this transition isn’t tightly connected. I will say that it’s quite possible that they knew this was coming before the AD decision was made; it’s also possible that Coach K saw the change and decided that this was the right moment for a transition. Further, a brand new AD with the kind of attention Nina King gets for her social significance would be under a lot of pressure right off the bat if there were a national coaching search. Perhaps that contributed to the transition choice, perhaps not.

But there’s no way that the transitions happening so close to each other aren’t significant. This isn’t to say that it’s only an issue because it’s Nina King and not someone else–the AD issue was a huge issue here during our last football coaching change.

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It may be a bad idea, but I think you wildly overestimate the power their AD holds. He’s not winning any power struggles over this and would be risking his job for engaging in one. The AD who thinks he can doesn’t understand where he’s working.

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like I said, their loss is our gain. They are set up for failure under this decision making arrangement and their AD is going to be the fall guy for it.

UNC out here pulling 3 stars.

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We beat a top 5 team with Dave Merritt, Zack Gibson, Kelvin Grady, freshman Novak … that year might have been Beilein’s best coaching job.

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