Could be misreading your post, but Lloyd didn’t get punked against OSU all the time. He was 6-7 against them.
People tend to think of late-career Lloyd, and the team did slide late in his tenure, he got a bit testy and brittle. But consider: His teams won five Big Ten titles and a national championship. In addition, Michigan was ranked in the Associated Press Top 25 for all but nine games under him. Only once during his tenure did Michigan conclude a season unranked (2005). He was the first Wolverine coach to win four straight bowl games, Carr went 5–4 against Notre Dame, 10–3 State, 6-7 against OSU, and 9–2 record against Penn State.
And some of his alleged stiffness–his resistance to the hires of Rich Rod and Les Miles–which rubbed me the wrong way at the time, looks a little different in hindsight. And he never had an ugly student scandal like Williams does.
Again, maybe I’m missing something about your critique. But as an achiever, I’d say Lloyd can easily stand with Roy. As a human. . .
It’s interesting under Harbaugh he has never started his own recruit until last year. It has been all transfers or Hoke holdover. Not sure about this season because it’s a battle between Cade McNamara and Alan Bowman. I have to imagine that Bowman might have the inside track because he has more experience and Harbaugh’s feeling the heat of needing to win now.
Long term, Michigan is much better off starting JJ McCarthy and let him grow from there but it’s not going to happen unfortunately.
The only thing more depressing than Michigan losing to UCLA in hoops is then to instantly start thinking about the Michigan football program. Jesus Christ at QB wouldn’t be able to save that program.
Anyway, I saw a random comment on Twitter that I found interesting - would Kelvin Sampson consider leaving Houston for Texas Tech? Sampson has a nice thing going in the AAC, but obviously the Big 12 is a step up. I know Houston has some money, but not sure compared to a TX TECH
Considering his age I think he’s comfortable where he’s at. He has it set up at Houston so that his son will take over when he retires. Which I suppose he can do anyway but not sure he wants to compete in state against his own son. Unless he makes TTU give his son the same deal. Anyway kind of a rant but I suppose it’s possible but not likely.
I had just moved back to San Francisco in 97 and had no TV. I came to feel at home watching the games with a crazed group of fellow M grads in a bar on Stockton, right where Little Italy and Chinatown were converging. I had hated football in college, and despite going to school at Huron in Ann Arbor, never even been to a game. I became a Lloyd fan. And for a while, he was revered. Later, when he undermined RichRod, not so much. . . not that RR needed any help.
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