Big Ten Basketball 2022-23 Discussion

The guy who is pathologically afraid to shoot is suddenly going to drop 15 a night? Ahahahahahahahaha hahahaha.

Give me a break, Bart.

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I know Illinois lost a lot of production in Kofi, but I figured their transfers would make up for that in kenpom’s model.

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You apparently didn’t read the memo that Coleman-Hawkins is required to be a breakout candidate and star in any conversation about 2022 Illinois. No word on whether that memo was written by the Brandon Johns fan club or not.

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I actually do believe in Coleman Hawkins breakout candidate. And figured Mayer and Shannon would boost their projection.

Happy National KemPom preseason rankings release day!!! :partying_face::partying_face::partying_face::partying_face::partying_face:

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yeah, honestly, this makes me believe a whole lot more in indiana and makes me think maybe we’ve been too rough on them?

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Nah.

They have a lot of returning minutes from a mediocre bubble tournament team. Other teams have more unknowns, which hurts the rankings, but likely unlocks a higher upside when we find out which new players are legit

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Coleman Hawkins??? On top of the RJ Melendez hype all off-season???

Might as well pencil them into the Final Four now.

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Surprised Indiana’s defense is projected to be so good. I don’t remember them standing out as great last few seasons. (Looks like they ended up #24 in Kenpom defense last year.)

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I’m starting to get that vibe too, but 22nd for them nationally offensively feels like such a stretch. Their O rating was worse last year than any point under Miller. Even looking late in the year, their offensive efficiency didn’t get better in February or March.

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More preseason projections: https://evanmiya.com/

  1. Iowa
  2. MSU
  3. Indiana
  4. Purdue
  5. Illinois
  6. Michigan
  7. Wisconsin
  8. OSU
  9. Maryland
  10. Rutgers
  11. PSU
  12. Northwestern
  13. Nebraska
  14. Minnesota

Edit: Not sure why it shows up this way. Looks normal until it posts.

wait, what? the big ten has all 14 teams between 12th and 25th in the country?

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I’m guessing it was a copy/paste and the forum software auto-generated the list using Iowa’s #12 ranking as the starting point (although MSU is #13).

The actual ranks are as follows:
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I will eat my shoe if Iowa and MSU end up 1 and 2 in the conference

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I think there’s some value in outlier ranking systems if you include them in a mash up of lots of ranking systems but Miya’s stuff is definitely an outlier whenever I end up looking at it.

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I knew MN was going to be rough, but to be that many spots below Nebraska and Northwestern? Yikes.

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1 spot behind Nebraska on KenPom.

Reading an analysis he did early on in the pandemic made me think there was some value in an extremely niche blog/newsletter focusing on how statistics are commonly used (and misused) in sports discussions. It’s made me mistrust his stuff ever since.

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I think he uses his model for predictions but I don’t know how accurate they are. I’ve seen sites that compare different predictive models for college football (SP+, Pi-rate, FEI, etc.) Wonder it there’s one for basketball.

I’m probably not saying much that you guys don’t already know (certainly not about Michigan) but my preview covering them, Maryland, and Michigan State is up.

(Go ahead and delete if self-promo is not allowed. Not going to post every one, just throwing this one out there since it includes Michigan/MSU)

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