Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

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If the alternatives are a broken Rockets Watts and a decidedly meh AJ Hoggard, he’s…probably right? Yikes.

Yeah if you look at that statement it conveniently ignored one side of the court. Loyer is probably…fine… offensively which puts him ahead of the others. As sad as that is to say.

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Right this is his way of trying to get certain guys going. He has a good recruiting class coming in with Akins/Christie/Brooks. With Loyer out this is pretty much letting Hoggard know that he will have his shot for the remaining games but if he doesn’t play well there’s a distinct chance that Akins will be cutting into his time. Same goes for a guy like Watts who has looked dreadful out there. He showed flashes last year and has looked bad this year. There’s no guarantee that Watts will get the bulk of the minutes if he doesn’t improve and Christie can provide things Watts can’t.

Izzo has high expectations for his players seemingly a lot of his players haven’t responded well to that.

Most-recent WTKA roundtable had just an absolutely delicious segment snarking on Izzo.

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aherm says Loyer “should be playing 30 minutes per game for MSU until his eligibility runs out.”

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Oh it’s absolutely true which is the best part

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Has anybody crunched the numbers on the relative likelihood Michigan loses each of its games to OSU, Illinois, and Iowa but otherwise wins out/finishes with the best win percentage? Obviously not the most likely outcome, but possible and has to be the worst case scenario for the BIG. And if Illinois fans are mad now, imagine how furious they’d be if that happened (and probably with good reason).

I ping Bart Torvik on Twitter for stuff like this all the time and he never does it for me :frowning_face:

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Seems like we need to purchase Bart a sub so we can @ him here!

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Probably could get a good idea using his projection feature on his site, right?

Edit: I guess you can’t get an exact probability. But using team cast, both Illinois and OSU would be projected to be 15-5 if you mark their games against us as wins. Michigan would only have 4 losses and a better win % in that case.

It helps that OSU/Illinois still have one more game

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Interesting. I’m new to this tool! That’s a good find. But you’re right it doesn’t give me exactly what I want. However you can calculate the likelihood of the above scenario taking place using his win probabilities (KenPom doesn’t list the postponed games). But assuming Indiana and Penn State aren’t rescheduled, and every other postponed game is, the odds Michigan wins out except for losses to Illinois, Iowa, and OSU is only 1.6 percent, taking Torvik’s odds as given.

I know its Vitale but in the opening they basically anointed Garza as NPOY. I just can’t believe that is a done deal especially if Iowa tails off the next few weeks.

And right on cue he sags off Davison and has no interest in challenging him and gives him a wide open 3.

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Wisconsin is total garbage. Finally my Gregory Gard hate is paying off

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Figures that Ford can’t make anything so far tonight but couldn’t miss against us (at least early in our game). Whisky’s should be called the masons instead of the badgers.

@buckets12 is gonna be bouncing off the walls after this one.

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Wisconsin is not good! Will be interesting to see when Michigan plays OSU how that game goes can’t take much from beating Wisconsin no offense!! Need to hopefully go 2-1 verse OSU, Iowa and Illinois and would feel pretty good about that.

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Well, let’s wait until after this game is over to declare the Wisconsin apocalypse to have begun

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Took 6 minutes, but a Wisconsin 5 got a rebound.

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I agree, feels like we came back from our pause against a flat-out bad opponent.