Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

A literal post I made to you yesterday. I can trust KenPom/Torvik on the whole while disagreeing with an individual teams standings in those metrics. Also way to completely ignore the rest of my post, which includes losses to Purdue and Northwestern, and just incorrectly focus on one specific point that (poorly) fits your narrative.

Also, this is a complete straw man’s argument that argues against a point I am not making. I said I don’t think OSU is as good as the polls/metrics say, where they are a top 15/borderline line top 10 team. I do think they are a top 25/borderline top 20 team, which tracks with everything else I said. I think Wisconsin is in a pretty similar tier to them. Me saying I think OSU almost losing to PSU makes them a top 20 team and not top 10, does not in any way, shape or form impact the argument that the B1G is an incredibly strong conference, with PSU being a good team at the base of the conference being part of the reason.

Also I enjoy you jumping out of the woodworks, ignoring a whole bunch of posts I made yesterday, to (poorly) attack this one post of mine that doesn’t even contradict anything I said. Instead of making an unnecessarily combative post that still misses the mark, I recommend you focus on making a stronger argument next time with more substance.

Also how great is the Big 12 looking? Lost the SEC-Big 12 challenge, and a preseason top 10 blue blood in Kansas got absolutely murdered and is now 1-4 in their last five. Clearly that means the Big 12 is on a downward spiral, right?

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Was Liddell out for any of those losses?

No, only loss he missed was @Purdue, but he was there for the PSU win as well as losses @Minnesota, @Northwestern and vs Purdue.

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this has all the makings of a transfer

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I was told it was “selfish” of Tom Izzo to ask Watts to play the PG and that Watts wanted to do “what’s best for the team” and come off the bench. It’s almost like…maybe…that was all untrue coachspeak and Watts just got benched cuz he’s bad.

If I was at this postgame presser I’d ask, “Coach, did Rocket Watts come to you privately for another player/coach conversation and ask to play point guard again?”

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What happened to all the glowing puff pieces about Hoggard’s dominant play changing MSU’s season?

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First sub comes 2 minutes in, Bingham for Kithier

Michigan State’s interior defense is just so bad. Jarring to watch.

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It had to happen eventually. MSU has a uni that I like.

Liddell is really good and will give Michigan problems in a way Micah Potter didn’t. Was really impressed with his physicality in the jersey rip game (which feels so long ago because I was at that game). Really made a jump in skill level.

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Liddell and Young combining for 12 points 7 minutes in…can’t wait to see what HD does

Loyer-Langford-Henry-Hall-Marble now

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spoke too soon, here’s Hoggard! what are we doing Tom? is this a hockey game?

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2 on Henry and Young. I’d take that trade every day if I were OSU.

Also someone please make a GIF of that dead eyes Izzo stare

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These are two really bad defenses

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Kind of surreal to see a Tom Izzo defense that is this bad

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oh Foster. oh no

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Loyer still doesn’t look like he belongs in a Big Ten game

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nice game for Hauser so far.