Big Ten Basketball 2020-21 Discussion (Part 1)

Then the argument isn’t Hunter of TJD, it is Dickinson vs Harper Jr.

There has been a lot made of the bench being able to turn a road game into a home game feel through their energy.

I’m wondering if that phenomena has less of an effect at Williams Arena due to the raised floor, and the bench feeling a bit more removed than in most arenas.

Robbins has shot 17 free throws this evening. 27 pts and 13 boards.

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Yup. Kenpom’s always got OSU quite a bit higher than they end up.

Big Ten players occupy half of the kPOY leaderboard:

Also, today I learned that Marcus Carr is Canadian.

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I will reiterate what I said a week ago: OSU is not very good.

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A lot of preseason talk had 4 teams fighting at the top of the conference, I think considering the double bye in the tournament. But right now I think tier 1 is five teams with Wisconsin, Illinois, Michigan, Iowa, and Rutgers. The tier 2 might be Indiana and Minnesota on their own, because I agree Ohio State is a tier below where a lot of people thought the were preseason. Also I don’t have faith in either of those coaches. Tier 3 with OSU, Northwestern, Purdue, Maryland, and maybe MSU is where the big 10 will fight for tournament teams. I don’t see Penn St making it this year, and Nebraska is a tier below that.

Edit: I don’t think Iowa or Rutgers will win the conference outright, maybe they pull it off in a two or three way tie. More of a Tier 1a- they have a good chance of beating anyone but will drop more clunkers than the rest of Tier 1

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Michigan 8th on Torvik and 10th in KenPom

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Speaking of Lord Pomeroy…

We’re now to the point where we have 16 remaining games. 14 of those games are tier A via his system, the other two are tier B.

For reference, here is his page on the matter: https://kenpom.com/blog/tiers-of-joy/

A game in Tier A represents a top 50 opponent adjusting for the location of the game, and Tier B is the same concept for a top 100 opponent.

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Of note with Michigan playing Penn State next weekend… The Wisconsin/PSU game was called off due to 2 Penn State positives.

Will be interesting to see who they are because I would assume those players can’t play against Michigan due to 21 day rule. Although the article says they are not contributors:

According to a source, the positive tests were not players who contribute meaningful minutes, in turn, while the health and safety of all student-athletes is important during the ongoing pandemic, any pending quarantine periods would not directly impact any on-court factors.

Has there been any guidance from the conference on determining standings between teams with unequal games played?

I think, for now, they are pretty confident they’ll get games in with multiple windows for rescheduled games but I’m not sure of the specific tiebreaker rules.

Michigan is now #11 on Torvik when you change the start date to 11/25, which I believe removes preseason factors (they’re #8 with a start date of 11/1, the default).

All Big Ten teams w/o preseason factors:

Also 3rd in WAB, ahead of 9-0 Baylor.

I have no idea what WAB is, but I can only assume in the words of the great Cardi B, it stands for “Wet A** Basketball”, in which case I agree we are 3rd in the country.

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But for real, it means Wins Above Bubble: The difference in the number of wins a team has compared to the expected number of wins an average “bubble” team would earn against a given teams’ schedule.

(edited due to brain fart)

Wins Against* Bubble. How many wins you have against what an average bubble team would have with the same schedule.

Above? Against? Same thing. It’s probably above though

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lol, sorry about that, KT. It’s my first day back to work in two weeks and I think I slept for a combined four hours last night. Two cups of coffee have not been much help.

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