Interesting - is their high talent level depth pool getting larger or am I just suffering Mathurin recency bias
I’m pretty sure that it’s over and back as soon as the ball passes the half court line. So as far as when he hits the ground shouldn’t matter?
It’s definitely improving and basketball culture there is growing. But ultimately the US has a Ben Mathurin every year and Canada does not
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People in here were saying he has to touch the ground before it’s over and back.
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Man, I think that’s a foul - a lot of contact with the lower body there
Definitely a foul in any other part of the game imo. Refs didn’t have the cajones to call that though
I mean, that crew was actually letting a lot go - but my first look at that on my screen, I really think Terry knows exactly what he’s doing with his lower body there. My first reaction is that wasn’t a flop. And that’s not one you can let go.
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Also, their individual offensive numbers fall off a cliff vs Tier A comp for all of their major pieces… This is not quite the case for most of Michigan players (except Caleb).
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It is definitely not over and back as soon as it gets into the backcourt – an offensive player has to possess the ball there in order for it to be a violation.
Specifically, Rule 9(12)(3)(a&b) and (4):
Art. 3: A live ball is in the frontcourt or backcourt of the team in control as follows:
(a) A ball that is in contact with a player or with the playing court shall be in the backcourt when either the ball or the player (either player when the ball is touching more than one) is touching the backcourt. It shall be in the frontcourt when neither the ball nor the player is touching the backcourt;
(b) A ball that is not in contact with a player or the playing court retains the same status as when it was last in contact with a player or the playing court
Art 4: A player shall not be the first to touch the ball in the backcourt (with any part of the body, voluntarily or involuntarily) when the ball came from the frontcourt while that player’s team was in team control and that player/ teammate was the last to touch the ball before it went into the backcourt
So, if the ball touches the backcourt, without a deflection by the defense, then the ball is in the backcourt and the offensive player cannot be the first to touch it. If the ball is merely above the backcourt, it is not a violation if the player is in the frontcourt.
Either the ball or the player must physically touch the backcourt in order for a violation to be possible.
The more I watch it, I think the refs blew it. Terry pretty clearly intentionally bumps him with his right leg, that’s a foul.
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They “didn’t want to decide the game.”
So, they failed to make the call, and, by doing so, decided the game. 
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I’m inclined to agree. You shouldn’t get a freebie where you get to ride a guy back across the timeline just because the refs are afraid to blow a whistle.
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My comment was more getting at the that I think the backcourt is supposed to include the space above the court as well as the actual floor. So as soon as the ball is in his hand and crosses the line, it’s a backcourt. That could easily be wrong though I guess? This doesn’t come up very often since most backcourts are foots on the line.
Myron Metcalf (ESPN) has an article in which he re-seeds the remaining field. His writeup about Michigan begins with Juwan’s handshake line incident and ends with this:
“And Howard now has to deal with the one (viral video) that shows him consoling Tennessee’s Kennedy Chandler after Saturday’s game.”
I’m sorry, but what does “has to deal with” mean? Haters have to deal with it. Weird choice of words. If his goal is just to troll, I guess it just worked on me…
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Apologies if this has already been said, but…
Wow, major serial killer vibes.
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In honor of the fact that we’re in the Sweet Sixteen again, and our four major B1G rivals failed to do so again, here are some stats.
In the last 5 tournaments Michigan has:
- 14 NCAA wins (and counting), 5 Sweet Sixteens, 2 Elite Eights (and counting), 1 Final Four (and counting) and 1 NCAA title game appearance (and counting).
Illinois has:
- 2 NCAA wins, 0 Sweet Sixteens, 0 Elite Eights and 0 Final Fours.
OSU has:
- 3 NCAA wins, 0 Sweet Sixteens, 0 Elite Eights and 0 Final Fours.
MSU has:
- 7 NCAA wins, 1 Sweet Sixteen, 1 Elite Eight and 1 Final Four.
Wisconsin has:
- 4 NCAA wins, 1 Sweet Sixteen, 0 Elite Eights and 0 Final Fours.
For our special dunk on Illinois section, how many years back do you need to go for Illinois to equal Michigan’s production these last 5 years? Lets find out.
14 wins - Illinois has 14 tourney wins over the last 20 years
5 Sweet Sixteens - Illinois has 5 Sweet Sixteens over the last 33 years
2 Elite Eights - Illinois has 2 Elite Eights over the last 21 years
1 Final Four - Illinois has 1 Final Four over the last 17 years.
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So are you saying that, over the last 5 tournaments, those four conference rivals AS A GROUP have only two more wins than Michigan on its own?
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