For reference here, I believe Vecenie had Ivey as a tier-1 prospect
Sure, I think Duncan and Hollinger had him 6 or 7 or so.
They both basically said âI would have liked to see more of him, but he did what we could ask when he was out there.â
Missed on Duren - they agreed that guys with his physical tools who play with his effort will be starters even if they fail to add much refinement.
Yeah, Vecenie has always been high on Ivey. He has him in a tier with at least All star upside (but not the Superstar tier that he had Cade in pre draft).
I donât think Livers is a long term starter but even a rotational wing piece in the NBA who can shoot 3s is at least getting good money on his rookie extension. Maybe 4 years, $40 million depending on how Livers does this year?
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Yeah I wasnât trying to say I (or anyone) thinks he wonât be a pro. More that âLivers potential starter!â says more about the Pistons roster than Liversâ current ability (probably)
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This is not meant to sound as harsh to Matt Painter as it may come across, but with Ivey isnât there a bit of a projection that there is some untapped potential because of the way Painter used him/there system?
He was not featured like a Paolo/Jabari/Murray and isnât a Chet unicorn but I think itâs fair to say he could project to that Tier 1 level in the pros.
I think the assertion is that Purdueâs priority was to play through the post (both centers were 33%+ usage) and that particularly Edey isnât conducive to a cleared lane. The idea was that Ivey would benefit from âNBA spacingâ. That said, the Pistons wonât be providing that.
A team built to feature/highlight Ivey would have probably run ball screens and put the ball in his hands in the half court, which Purdue did fitfully.
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Where did they all have Ivey on their boards that they considered him a reach at 5?
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Chet and Paolo playing together right now:
https://www.nba.com/watch/event/0092290012-Paolo-Chet-To-Play-In-Pro-Am?cid=nba%3Aarti%3Aown%3Asocial%3Atw%3Atwfeed%3Aappdwn%3Acont%3Aconvis%3At-cont%3Au-glo%3Au-en%3A&%24web_only=true&_branch_match_id=1066732737220923660&_branch_referrer=H4sIAAAAAAAAA8soKSkottLXTywo0MvJzMvWy0tK1EvOz9VP1U8uSiwvzi9LLYoHABUlI9UlAAAA
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Couple spots lower?
Iâm just confused because Hollinger had Ivey 3rd and Vecenie had him 4th, so how are they now saying itâs a reach?
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Terrible and this will continue the talk about not taking tall lanky kids so early.
A foot injury is now a reason not to draft lanky people?
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Itâs already being discussed. I never said you shouldnât but there was a narrative out there before he even got drafted with questions if he could hold up. It will only feed that narrative more.
NOTE: Lanky and smooth players are still highly draftable.
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OKC is probably just thinking about how much this will help their chances of drafting another lanky player.
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As it should. 7-footers in general are more injury prone, but at that size and particularly thin shape thereâs a very short list of guys that held up in the NBA.
Should you have a hard/fast rule about drafting them? Absolutely not. Thatâs situational.
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Generally the foot injuries guys that height suffer are due to being proportionately heavier as well, which doesnât really apply to Chet.
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Yeah that was my initial thought. Generally itâs large 7 footers that have lingering issues like that. Yao is the main one to come to mind
Greg Oden is the first name I thought of. Mr. Un-Unbreakable.
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The part Iâd be more worried about as an OKC fan is the injury doesnât look bad, if thatâs really the play where it occurred. Chet plants and jumps to defend the rim, and thatâs it. No awkward landing, nobody stepped on him. Just a routine play and itâs a season long injury.
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