Bold move to start 5 negative shooters.
Brook Lopez went from bad to good too. John Collins was seen as defensively hopeless a few year back and pretty good now. You can definitely improve your defensive awareness and decision making and positioning just not sure how you figure out who is going to become a solid enough drop defender at center and who is going to forever be Enes Kanter.
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Caleb 12
Moussa 40
Hunter 85
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Would Dickinson really enter the draft even he didnāt get a 1st or 2nd round grade?
If Hunter garners all American buzz and isnāt projected as a draft pick why would he feel college basketball will get him closer? See the preceding discussion - Hunterās draft stock is a result primarily of his physical traits not the skills he doesnāt possess.
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Everyone go buy their BDE tshirts. Letās make it worth his while to stay another year.
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How many all american type players leave 2 years early to go undrafted? I donāt think itās one particular thing thatās holding him back. Itās both physical and talent based. Ability to go left is a talent thing, as is shooting a 3. If he still has issues with that are teams going to take a chance on him?
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How Many players stick around to be an All American for 4 years?
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Matthew Hurt left Duke after 2 years and went undrafted this past summer. Preseason Wooden and Naismith lists before his sophomore season and had a very good year and was 1st team All ACC.
Currently in the G League.
Kaleb Wesson maybe not quite as big a profile the prior year but he left after his junior season to go undrafted.
Lots of talented kids leave early and go undrafted every year. Usually it is because they want to be professionals and not college students.
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NIL is the big variable. Especially for kids with social skills, a love of the spotlight, and the chance to win national awards. Whilst I have not looked at the little details, the big picture suggests that Dickinson is the absolute ideal test case for NIL. Can he make more as a pro than he can as an amateur? Can anyone sell a vision that remaining in the spotlight in college opens up even greater revenue opportunities later? No idea, but on paper thatās feasible and as a fan itās very tempting to hold out hope for another year based on that.
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Garza stuck around and was POY for 2.Markus Howard was 2nd team AA and returned for a senior season where he was AA again. Cassius Winston was 2nd team AA and returned to be an AA his senior season. Ethan Happ was a 3rd team AA, 2 years later first team AA and was a 3 time All Big Ten player. Carsen Edwards did the 3 year tour 2nd team as a soph, 2nd team as a junior. Malcolm Brogdon did the junior/senior all american tour. Buddy Hield similar thing.
So there are numerous guys recently in the last 6 years that stuck around a couple years. More guards than bigs but maybe Dickinson is a cross between Happ/Garza. A taller version than Happ with better post moves with more athleticism but along the lines of Garza but probably wonāt shoot it as well as he does but a better defender.
I was going to write basically this whole response. It really is a new variable and a guy like Hunter could make way more money from NIL than from going pro next year (undrafted or G League). All while remaining the ābig manā on campus.
Right youāre talking about returning after one All American season for a second, which is not what I asked for. Hunter was an AA last year. If he comes back heād be coming back for a 3rd which would be extremely rare bordering on unprecedented in recent times. Happ is basically the one example. But even then none of them were AAs as freshman and just physically dominant like Hunter
Now we are talking about NIL being in the mix now. Matthew Hurt is making a minimum of 37k this year and upwards of 81k, doubtful he gets to play 50+ games in the NBA this year to get to 400k.
There are more avenues with NIL to make that six figure amount especially with the news of TyTy Washington. Heās donating 10% to charity and I would be surprised if itās just 10% of say 100k.
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Financially though, this is a whole new world. Letās say he can make high six figures for the next 3 yearsā¦thatās a whole lot more than 37K that the G League. Changes the decision making process.
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I donāt disagree. It could change things for him but we donāt know how much heās making. Also Hunter literally said he was a 3 point jumper from being a first round pick. His view of his draft stock will not necessarily be the NBAās view. And his age has to be considered. He could say yeah I could make 50k more at Michigan but this may be my only/best shot to go now
Itās already been revealed by Kyle Tucker I believe that TyTy is making around $1 million this year in NIL deals.
If a college player can pull in that much money. Itās just straight up better for them to stay in college vs go to Europe or the G League. You need to be a big time player in Europe to breach a million.
Exactly so if a player can have the right connections and make a million thereās much upside to being in college. Yes he can play against men in the G League or even the NBA but the NBA is just trying to mine the next diamond in the rough. If youāre not developing fast enough for an organization they will go onto the next guy. Maybe a good example is Christian Wood left UNLV early bounced around the G League and 4 NBA teams and 3 different G League teams. Hit it big with the Pistons now heās making a lot of money. Thatās probably the best case scenario though and there are probably more that have done the tour like Christian Wood did but never got rewarded.
How much money did I miss out on there?
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