2017 Recruiting Notes


#2747

Wasn’t intentional lol. You didn’t like the pickup initially, what changed your mind?


#2748

I didn’t really dislike it, I was still dreaming of Wilkes honestly. I love the fact that he can shoot well and looks to be a legit 6’8. Being a true 4 and the fact we have missed one for a few years now, makes it all the better too. I don’t ever see him sliding to the 3 unless his handle improves with a miracle. But if I had to draw up a 4 man for beilein, it’d be him with a year of Sanderson.


#2749

I wouldn’t say a true 4 in terms of a 2-way player. A true 4 offensively for a Beilein team, but not in the mold of a legit 4 from a traditional sense. Doesn’t have the motor on the glass like Young, or even Cain, for that matter. But certainly an upgrade from Duncan Robinson defending the 4 or the perimeter. Agree with you, he will never play the 3. Probably the least desirable option at the 4 from Jackson, Wilkes, Tillman, Young…but I said plenty of times there were no bad options. Livers will probably be a 10ppg and 4-5 reb type as an upperclassmen and a solid defender. MUCH better than DJ Wilson IMO.


#2750

Whoa now, I think dj has a good chance to be a good player this year. He’s got the opportunity right in front of his face. Does he accept the challenge?


#2751

C’mon JM, its wishful thinking at best to think DJ is going to be a 10 and 5 guy based on what we’ve seen at UM and his HS film. You’re essentially talking about a guy that lacks the motor/physicality/footwork to be a post, while also lacking the skill to be a wing. Trying to convert wings to bigs just isn’t a good idea. That’s why I like Livers, the ‘transition cost’ is not nearly as high


#2752

Back to livers. Glenn Robinson averaged 13pts and 4rebs while shooting 30% from 3. I see no reason why livers can’t have better numbers than that. Maybe not ppg but close to and better numbers in most other categories.


#2753

At this point. 8pts 4rebs and 1blk a game would be a great sophomore year for him. Then as a junior, hopefully he could build on it. I’m still hoping.


#2754

If we were a more uptempo/transition team I could see it, but with our slow motion offense I can’t really agree. Livers runs the floor well in transition, but is exclusively a catch and shoot guy in the halfcourt with the occasional drive off a poor close-out.

Livers a decent athlete, but certainly not GR3 level in terms of finishing on the baseline.


#2755

Not the athlete, but no doubt a much better shooter already.


#2756

Definitely agree he’s a better shooter with better, and more consistent mechanics.


#2757

Obviously you’ve noticed as the rest of the world has, are you Concerned at all about that hitch in his jump shot?


#2758

Who are you referring to?


#2759

A few people have mentioned his shot and how it is like Jamal Crawfords in a sense that when he shoots he kind of double clutches. He shoots fine so I don’t see a real problem but down the road it could be an issue if beilein tries to take that out of his shot.


#2760

I know the theory? If it ain’t broke don’t fix it. But there aren’t many kids who double clutch like he does and has a lot of success.


#2761

If he were 6’4 might be an issue, but at a legit 6’7 opposing 4s will give him a bit of space. Don’t think it will be a huge issue unless Miles Bridges is checking him.


#2762

Very true assessment.

But, quite honestly, if DJ Wilson is able to provide 6 & 4 with average B1G Conference defense vs the 4spot in 15-18mins per game — that type of production from a bench spot would give the coaching staff good flexibility behind Irvin-Robinson-MAAR at the wing positions.


#2763

I know it’s over and done with but do you guys think young would have committed? I’m happy with livers and am a fan,but Kyle has a bit more bruiser in him which we need. I felt like he would have chose us for some reason.


#2764

You use to tout ESPN quite a bit here.


#2765

Very true from a rankings perspective. But after being at a good portion of the events as a 2 man team (along with Guestavo), we literally seen a representative from ESPN on 1 occasion in Atlanta for EYBL session 4 in Atlanta, that being Paul Biancardi.

I’ll ask you - do you think Livers should be #76 ahead of Eastern and Cain being NR?


#2766

I’ve heard that ESPN recently started cutting WAY down on the resources they allocate to recruiting.