With what seems to be a lack of emphasis of recruiting wings this period do any of you think belien and company think chatman and or Robinson will make the transition to the 2 or 3? I could see chatman (IF he develops) taking over for Irvin after next year no clue with Robinson since I haven’t seen him play.
Just seems strange with what seems to be a log jam at the 4-5 to not watch Langford over Bowen, Davis and cook.
Yessssssss! That’s what I’m talking about JB.
John Beilein watching Josh Langford, who has been great today. @247Wolverine #adidasUprising
— Jerry Meyer (@jerrymeyer247) April 12, 2015
Brown having a monster weekend so far.
G Bruce Brown (@BruceBrown11): 24 PTS, 7 REB for BABC (MA) in a win over King James @TheBABC http://t.co/kZsw6jfrfw
— D1 Circuit (@D1Circuit) April 11, 2015
Looks like Langford had a nice game in front of JB
FINAL: Rens 86, Celtics 72 | Rawle Alkins game high 37 points | Kobi Simmons had 31 | Josh Langford 18 pts, 11 rebs | Mustapha Heron 21 pts.
— Chip Miller (@BLUEChip_Miller) April 12, 2015
Mind you Josh Langford rebounds were not normal, they were way above the crowd and in traffic
— Brian (@mreverything211) April 12, 2015
I think we can pretty much wipe Murray off our list based on the context of his interviews…wants to be the man instantly, and I also think the Murray camp thinks he’s one and done.
Jamal Murray's dad: “Kentucky has been in contact before but has reached out more so after Saturday's game.” http://t.co/zSQYrR24iW
— Dan Bodner (@DanBodnerKSC) April 13, 2015
Coming on strong “@Tariq_NPH: #Duke, #Kentucky in the mix - @PaulBiancardi on Jamal Murray from @nikehoopsummit http://t.co/bpauLGqIsx”
— Paul Biancardi (@PaulBiancardi) April 13, 2015
Jefferson averaging 14.2ppg, 7reb per game, 1.5stl per game in AAU this year..............kid can fill up a stat sheet. All while shooting 57% from the floor and 36.4% from 3..............I'll gladly take that at UM if we fail with Langford, Battle or Murray.At this point, I think I prefer Jefferson over Murray and potentially even Battle. Jefferson certainly isn’t as polished as those two, but he seems to be a better rebounder and defender–two things we sorely need.
He’s not the creator that those two are, but his ball handling and shooting are adequate at this point in his development. I think he has a lot of upside.
I’ve watched Jefferson in about 10 full games…I wouldn’t necessarily say he’s a good perimeter defender, but he does have the tools. However, he is an excellent rebounder, there is no doubting that. He does not back away from contact. Jefferson is a below average ballhandler at this point, but a good passer. Shows the ability to hit jumpshots off the bounce, but not consistently.
Jefferson averaging 14.2ppg, 7reb per game, 1.5stl per game in AAU this year…kid can fill up a stat sheet. All while shooting 57% from the floor and 36.4% from 3…I’ll gladly take that at UM if we fail with Langford, Battle or Murray.
Jefferson averaging 14.2ppg, 7reb per game, 1.5stl per game in AAU this year..............kid can fill up a stat sheet. All while shooting 57% from the floor and 36.4% from 3..............I'll gladly take that at UM if we fail with Langford, Battle or Murray.
At this point, I think I prefer Jefferson over Murray and potentially even Battle. Jefferson certainly isn’t as polished as those two, but he seems to be a better rebounder and defender–two things we sorely need.
He’s not the creator that those two are, but his ball handling and shooting are adequate at this point in his development. I think he has a lot of upside.
G Bruce Brown (@BruceBrown11): 12 PTS, 7 REB, 5 AST, 2 STL for BABC in a win over NW Xpress @TheBABC http://t.co/ozSVBHhDHU
— D1 Circuit (@D1Circuit) April 12, 2015
Man Im really hoping JB gets this kid up for a full visit…and soon. Can help our team in so many different ways.
2016 6'6 Damien Jefferson (@DJTrey23) is a BEAST. He rebounds anything near him and gets buckets at will. This kid plays so hard.
— NextUpRecruits.com (@NextUpRecruits) April 12, 2015
Stinks that Jefferson has major grade concerns
Damien Jefferson (@djtrey23 // @SYFPlayers) goes off for 17 PTS, 15 REB in a win http://t.co/XR8st4GKNl @UAassociation // #RepsAreEarned
— Circuit Stats (@CircuitStats) April 12, 2015
New film on Langford from Adidas Uprising this weekend. I know Murray grabbed all the headlines by dropping 30 at the Summit, but I still think Langford is the better player. He can do it all…score off the bounce, finish through contact, rebound, great court vision, good catch and shoot player from deep or midrange, great weakside shot blocker, good verticality, strength…he is just a well rounded player that doesn’t need to score to impact the game. Notably he broke down Moyer with ease during the first few highlights, and Moyer is a really good defender. His footwork and fadeaway during the first minute or so remind me of Kobe
I’m starting to wonder about timetables for decisions on some of these guys. I believe it’s between us and Ohio St. for Towns. It seems that Goodin and Winston are the points with whom we have a good chance. Does anyone know about their timetables?
Thanks, MattD, I don’t agree with everything you say or, oftentimes, the way you say it, BUT I truly appreciate the recruiting information you provide, AND if you say a kid is good I believe it. I hope somehow JB and staff can make Langford blue, as in Maize and Blue.
Thanks, MattD, I don't agree with everything you say or, oftentimes, the way you say it, BUT I truly appreciate the recruiting information you provide, AND if you say a kid is good I believe it. I hope somehow JB and staff can make Langford blue, as in Maize and Blue.
I’ll say this…I realize I can come off as harsh and arrogant as times, and I probably do need to scale it back a bit. My own kid (daughter) plays AAU for an EYBL team…there are times (this weekend for example) where she looks absolutely great, then there are others (2 weekends ago) where she looked like an absolute bum in my opinion (and I tell her that as well!). Its just the nature of the beast that teenagers will be inconsistent, especially when playing 3-4 games a day, playing with 10-20 minutes of rest between games at times.
Above and beyond basketball, these kids are treated like meat at times…its sad in many ways that basketball (youth basketball in particular) has become such a business. These kids are expected to perform at a high level regardless of fatigue, personal issues, gym conditions (sometimes no air conditioning and floor is damp)…all to garner the attention of a college coach which may or may not offer a scholarship.
It seems to me it’s time to leave all this behind, and I hope it stays behind us without the need to revisit it, and get to the topic at hand, can we convince Brown, Langford, Winston, or other “bigtime” players to come play basketball for us at one of he truly great public universities in the land. What’s happening with Battle, Towns? Will we get a PG in '16 who can break down defenses, take it to the rack and/or kick it to an open shooter. This is what I’d like to hear about, and I rely on MattD, and Bacon, and Sane, and LA Wolverine, and others to enlighten us with THAT information.
Above and beyond basketball, these kids are treated like meat at times...........its sad in many ways that basketball (youth basketball in particular) has become such a business. These kids are expected to perform at a high level regardless of fatigue, personal issues, gym conditions (sometimes no air conditioning and floor is damp)..........all to garner the attention of a college coach which may or may not offer a scholarship.This is one of a few reasons why I get defensive when people attack the kids. Attack poor sportmanship or an obvious lack of effort, fine…but when kids are giving it their best and just aren’t as skilled as others, I prefer the high road.
In fairness, I think an attack would suggest commenting on their personal character. In my opinion, there is a difference between an attack, and critique of their on court abilities. In any event, The spirit of your statement has some merit in my view.
IMO, a critique is a well reasoned statement containing criticisms and shortcomings, and noting what must be done for improvement. Saying someone is garbage and not fit for this level is not a critique. Maybe attack is not the right word for it, but it’s certainly not an enlightened, useful statement worthy of a quality interchange in communication.
I didn’t use the garbage term, but I can nevertheless see your point. Saying a player is not fit for a certain level does not exceed any sort of boundary in my opinion though. Just depends on your subjective view of what is acceptable and what isn’t. I fall much more on the blunt side of the spectrum…I try to keep feelings out of it.
I know you didn’t use the term. But another poster did, not in this thread but another one IIRC.
Yeah, once I seen that term…I tried to refrain from further comment. Nothing good was going to come of that dialogue.
Well said, MattD. This I agree with 100%! I wish your daughter all the success in the world! She is fortunate to have a dad as actively involved as you are. And you are fortunate to have a daughter who shares your love of the game. Cherish all those times together! Thanks for a great post!
Above and beyond basketball, these kids are treated like meat at times...........its sad in many ways that basketball (youth basketball in particular) has become such a business. These kids are expected to perform at a high level regardless of fatigue, personal issues, gym conditions (sometimes no air conditioning and floor is damp)..........all to garner the attention of a college coach which may or may not offer a scholarship.This is one of a few reasons why I get defensive when people attack the kids. Attack poor sportmanship or an obvious lack of effort, fine…but when kids are giving it their best and just aren’t as skilled as others, I prefer the high road.
In fairness, I think an attack would suggest commenting on their personal character. In my opinion, there is a difference between an attack, and critique of their on court abilities. In any event, The spirit of your statement has some merit in my view.
IMO, a critique is a well reasoned statement containing criticisms and shortcomings, and noting what must be done for improvement. Saying someone is garbage and not fit for this level is not a critique. Maybe attack is not the right word for it, but it’s certainly not an enlightened, useful statement worthy of a quality interchange in communication.
I didn’t use the garbage term, but I can nevertheless see your point. Saying a player is not fit for a certain level does not exceed any sort of boundary in my opinion though. Just depends on your subjective view of what is acceptable and what isn’t. I fall much more on the blunt side of the spectrum…I try to keep feelings out of it.
I know you didn’t use the term. But another poster did, not in this thread but another one IIRC.