Offseason Discussion Thread


#383

Yeah those are weird takes. Huerter is really too light to be defined as “the ideal college stretch four”. Ideal college 4 is more someone like Bridges (pick either one!).

The Edwards as an off guard thing I guess is just weird because of size. There are only a few places in the league where you could slot him as the shooting guard (Phoenix, Houston, Washington, etc.). Has to be next to a tall point guard. I don’t get the obsession with Carsen Edwards as an “off guard” by many people in the media. It just seems to me that people just see that he played next to someone even shorter in PJ Thompson and thus Edwards is an off-guard. He can play off the ball, but he excelled on-ball in the pick and roll and ISOs as well. Elite pull up shooter. He’s very much a point in my mind.


#384

Not saying anything about his draft position, but he is too small to be a “modern NBA off-guard.” Modern NBA off-guards are 6’6 and can guard multiple positions. As the saying goes, “you are what you can guard” and Edwards is listed at 6’1 and is almost definitely shorter than 6 feet in actuality. He basically could not play off-guard in the current NBA.

Edit: Didn’t mean to rag on that site as hard as it came off. You’re right.


#385

I think the point was more that “modern NBA off-guard” doesn’t really describe his style of play at all.

Regarding ragging on the site… eh, it’s kind of frustrating how hard they jump off and on the bandwagon. In 2016 and '17 they weren’t even writing previews or recaps for the non-big games. I have voiced my frustrations with their analysis on here before, but you’re probably right in that it’s been beaten to death.


#386

Dont know anything about the player, but knew OSU needs bodies. Ive seen a couple tweets/articles suggesting MSU will likely look for a grad transfer; I wonder if many other B1G teams will go that route. NW and Purdue already added one each, right?


#387

Michigan Insider podcast with some bball updates at 12:00


#388

Man that’d be quite the dream 2 man class to land Wilson and Carton


#389

Those two would also be my choice 2 man class.


#390

We are so lucky to have the resources that we do as Michigan fans. The quality of sites like this and TMI plus mgoblog for football is 100% ummatched. The blog/forum game for UNC is embarrassingly poor, it was a shock to see the stuff we have isn’t a given for major teams.


#391

B1G seeds:
MSU: 2 (5 overall)
Michigan: 4 (15)
Nebraska 6 (22)
Maryland 7 (26)
Purdue 8 (30)
Wisconsin 10 (38)

I cant see the author’s list of who he is projecting staying in the draft/withdrawing, to know his thoughts on Ward, CM, Palmer, Copeland, Fernando, C. Edwards Happ. It’s hard to see Purdue as a tournament team, even with C. Edwards returning; they just lose so much. But I haven’t given a good luck at the full B1G conference-slate SOS.

This is probably the same B1G top 4 that I’d pick–assuming all of the guys I listed above do return to school (I think all of them are expected to, at this point?)–though I doubt the ‘gap’ between MSU and Michigan will be greater than the gap between Michigan and Nebraska.


#392

If Ward is gone, why are so many analysts so high on MSU for next year? Winston is good, but he isn’t good enough to completely dominate. Langford hasn’t shown he can be consistent enough to be a star. And the rest of the players are just guys.


#393

If ward leaves, that team is gonna stink.


#394

Ward isn’t gone, right? Hasn’t made a decision yet


#395

No he hasn’t decided yet, but I heard he hasn’t been going to classes or any team activities and has one foot out the door. He may be gone regardless of whether anyone tells him he will be drafted. I’m not sure why the default assumption seems to be that he is coming back (although I agree he probably should).


#396

There was an article that came out where Ward’s dad said that he’d come back if the feedback wasn’t good, so I assumed that meant he was coming back. But the word around MSU seems to be that he’s likely gone, so idk.


#397

Maybe he’ll get a Developmental League coach that’ll teach him how to pass out of a double team.


#398

Even if Ward is back, how are they a top 5 team? I don’t see it. Top 25 I could see.


#399

Matt McQuaid and Kenny Goins are going to start for this team. I have no idea at all how anyone in the country is predicting them that high


#400

I think part of it is that people are looking at their recruiting class ranking and assuming that they are bringing in an elite ready-to-play class. When in reality, Brown, Bingham, Henry and Kithier are all unlikely to be plus college players next year.


#401

Don’t see Ward being a loss unless he decides to get in shape, even then he’s pretty limited. He was pretty good against North Carolina early in the season, but by time they played M in January he looked bigger and slower. I think MSU is better served with Xavier Tillman as primary big.


#402

Their biggest weakness last year was their guard play and that is all they have coming back. They don’t appear to have impact freshmen coming in, so where is the threat?