6’10” guys that can move their feet defensively a bit and can survive on the perimeter while shooting ok from three get drafted, absolutely.
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I would guess that Poole has a range from like 38th (if a team REALLY falls in love with him) to undrafted. Taking a look through the 2nd round to undrafted portion of ESPN’s board, I think there are a lot of guards that are straight up better prospects right now.
I think the other question with Poole is how much could he realistically improve his stock with another year, and would that be worth returning for? I think most people would agree that he could potentially be a first round lock or even a mid-first round/late lottery selection, but right now that is just not going to happen (barring a combine invite and a great performance there, but I feel like most combine stories you hear about guys elevating stock are due to measurables or athleticism, which aren’t the biggest strengths for JP).
It’s a tough question to answer though. I posted a few weeks ago that roster composition could have something to do with struggles for Poole and the offense in general. Is there any guarantee Poole is going to be used differently in a way that helps his stock rise next year? I doubt he eats into Simpson’s usage at all. If he’s stuck playing primarily off ball next year (as his dad was quick to voice his opinion on), is that really going to elevate his draft position? He could shoot as well as he did in November for an entire season hypothetically, but I’m not sure that moves the needle much when scouts probably believe in his shooting ability already.
In my opinion, Poole could go either way. On one hand, another year could demonstrate that not only does he have the tools Dylan referenced, but that he can actually USE them.
On the downside, a similar year could get scouts thinking he just may never figure it out.
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Idk I think he could drastically improve it and I’m not just saying that cause I want him back. I think showing improved offensive/ defensive acumen and shooting with more consistency would knock him into first round alone.
Then we could add into that his ability to create for himself and others and he could really push his stock up. He has shown he can do this in spurts. I think it’s realistic he makes a huge jump and is the leading scorer on a final 4 team and he goes lottery.
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I know you weren’t exactly disagreeing there but I think he could really position himself and be given the keys to the whip more often (something I heard those young folk say)if they trust him to do so. More p n r situations ect.
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Yeah I agree if given the opportunity he may be capable, I guess I’m skeptical he gets that opportunity with Simpson returning. X just would not be an efficient player off ball to warrant JP getting a major uptick in PnR situations
I think we’re contributing to the exploitation simply by consuming the product.
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I have no argument with this whatsoever.
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Probably would agree. At least as among the players most prominently mentioned. Don’t have a real feel for Quinones.
So Amir Coffey just declared for the draft and hired an agent, but some on Twitter are saying the door is still open for him to come back to school. Guys can hire agents now and return?
Yup, here’s the relevant section of the rules.
College basketball players can be represented by an agent beginning after any basketball season if they request an evaluation from the NBA Undergraduate Advisory Committee.
This rule change is effective immediately.
The other significant change is that players that go through the combine but go undrafted can return to school.
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Wouldn’t that make recruiting potential replacements near impossible?
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Next step is letting them get paid by nba, retain college eligibility, and get a degree
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It may not have much effect. It adds 3 weeks compared to the former deadline for withdrawing from the draft. More importantly, it only applies to players who are invited to the combine. The underclassmen that get invites are the ones they expect to get drafted. Most of the players that declare early won’t get one.
New Vecenie Big Board has Poole #60, Matthews #63. Not sure if he would have Ignas off the board or if he doesn’t think he should consider leaving.
Our friends Cassius Winston and Xavier TIllman come in at #55 and #91
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My take on this:
Edit: April 4th not February 4th
yeah I think you’re right. I can’t imagine it’s really possible to keep up with every college basketball player simultaneously, so its easy to see someone falling behind on some guys. But only took him about 2 weeks to course correct.
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I do think that everyone has hit on a critical question for Poole: does he see the ball more next year? This might be part of his conversation with Beilein; and Beilein’s response might involve contingencies much more than guarantees.
The draft is about potential–this, for me, is the overriding message I take from watching the last few years. Poole has tons. If coming back could mean potentially displaying more limitations–or just awkwardness–he might be advised to go.
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