I was not surprised that Ivey can be a good 3 pt shooter. It feels sustainable prior to injury.
Next year, we need to see Ivey continue to pick up where he left off. Ron Holland improving his shooting, and I have more faith in Ron improving than Ausar tbh.
What is Suns history if Horry doesnât hip-check Nash into the scorersâ table?
Ron over Ausar as a shooter maybe, but nothing else
Tbf theyâve basically never made the playoffs since they moved back to Detroit.
Chuck doesnât remember that Game 3 vs Milwaukee where one-legged Blake almost beat Giannis
Jokic has clinched finishing the year averaging 10+ assists, making him the third player ever (Robertson, Westbrook) to average a triple double and obviously the only Center (Wilt was vaguely close once with a 24/24/8.5, but obviously the pace back then was waaaayyyyy faster so numbers tend to inflate - 21 more possession per game than now)
This reminds me of one discussion on the Dan Patrick Show where they were talking about Wilt and Russell and saying that some basketball historian found as much old footage as he could and, after watching something around 100 games of each, said that Wilt averaged something like 8 or 9 blocked shots a game and Russell was around 7.
Walker Kessler is leading the league this year with 2.4. Itâs an offense-friendly and outside shooting league now.
As MGL said, the pace was crazy fast as well.
It was even faster than the 70s in the 60s. People were just running and chucking since no one got any good shots anyway
and so many people yearn for that nasty 90s and 2000s ball just cause of nostalgia 
Fight me Pistons fans.
As a Bad Boys Pistons fan, I prefer todayâs game. Thereâs a few things Iâd tweak but the talent level is exceptional now and contrary to popular belief, it s not just stars going one one one all the time. Some of these offenses and defenses are a joy to watch.
Yeah, pace the year Wilt had 8.5 assists per game was 120 possessions
this year its 99
Have been getting pushed some 90s Bulls playoff games on YT and good grief thatâs some ugly ball.
The 80s werenât perfect but they at least wanted tempo and didnât spear anybody attempting a layup.
you give up some things to get others. better defense meant made shots more impactful. what we have today is relatively frictionless and it puts the talent on display, and the talent is very impressive.
what the two eras do have in common however is that the vast majority of games are low stakes affairs. thereâs just no way to make it otherwise when youâre playing an 82 game schedule with a playoffs. For me thatâs the main reason I prefer the college game. overall, thereâs just going to be strengths and weaknesses to whatever structure you choose.
The defense wasnt better though. Just way worse offense and different reffing and rules
I agree that ultimately the easiest thing to âfixâ the nba is reduce the games by like 20. But thatâd involve giving up money so that not gonna happen
yeah well andruw jones sucked
When people say itâs frictionless today I genuinely wonder if theyâve seen the three best teams in the league play
Like 5 minutes from the best team in the league will disabuse the notion
(Itâs fine to not watch the NBA, do what you want!)
well Iâm gonna be a bigger man and stay on topic
The defense was absolutely not better. It was simpler back then because there was no spacing.
Itâs harder to play defense now more than ever. You have 4-5 players who can shoot, and you canât camp at the paint. Plus the lack of hand checking and wide open space, it put a premium on being able to move. The average players are a lot more skilled today than in the past, and even the bigs are skilled, which adds to the difficulty of guarding in the perimeter.
The main change is hand checking.
I like that if youâre going to guard a guy now you need to stay in front using your feet and not grabbing. Also, guys arenât getting piledrived going to the hoop (except you, Jalen Wells)
