Detroit Pistons & NBA Talk

The fact that dudes are actually doing modern lifting programs instead of gambling and smoking cigs and eating gummy bears obviously changed athletes for the better but man, important to not underestimate the impact of rules on the game.

Peak COVID the Chicago local sports network aired a ton of '96 and '98 Bulls playoff games and it was really funny to see what was clearly an incredibly modern defense–Rodman at the 5, long, switchable helping wings everywhere, so cool–stuck in the very stupid illegal defense rules of the era and the incredibly dull offenses that resulted.

(The sheer number of 18 foot spot ups was ofc appalling and another obvious own goal)

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To be fair to the old guys, Marvin Bagley, Killian Hayes, Pat Williams, and Jordan Poole had nba jobs last year

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Today’s rules certainly favor more offense. That’s kind of the case in every major U.S. sport, but maybe less so in baseball.

Although baseball outlawed the shift recently.

Yeah, that was the only thing I could think of, aside from the occasional year where the ball has a little more jump.
The AL batting average is the lowest (.241) it’s been since 1968, which was before they lowered the mound and added the DH. The NL is .247, so not a ton better.
The shift really only became a thing in the late-teens, so the modifications made really only swayed things back to how they were about 10 years ago.

Suns-Pistons playing exhibition game at Breslin.

https://x.com/Suns/status/1831376716620820794?t=nUTN7E-ZRibPerBi8JBC0w&s=19

Yeah, but much like modern basketball where analytics suggest player efficiency (layups, low TOs, and 3s!) and not necessarily scoring average dictate the best players, on base percentage and slugging have become more important than batting average in an effort to increase WAR.

Basically, what is valued has changed.

Should have been Van Andel for Devin Booker.

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OBP is the 34th worst it’s been since tracking began in 1871. Slugging isn’t all that high either. It is in the upper 20% of the history of the game but it’s even with 1977, when the league BA was also 20 points higher.

Sorry, I know this is all baseball talk. To start to redirect it back I’ll just include this.

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Yeah, was just saying the value has changed. Used to be .300, 30, and 100 were the targets. Now you can bat .225 and hit 30+ HRs and be looked at differently.

I recently saw an article that brought up advanced stats and looked at Tony Gwynn’s career and how it didn’t show a favorable result. It was outright blasphemy to me.

God, if .225 and 30 bombs is the thing, history must now celebrate Pete Incaviglia and Rob Deer and kick Tony Gwynn and Rod Carew to the curb.

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There is so much I want to type here, but until Simon Fontecchio moonlights as a 4th outfielder, I must satisfy myself with direct messaging everyone

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Tony Gwynn still is the all-time leader in assists at SDSU and was selected in the 10th round of the 1981 NBA Draft by the San Diego Clippers.

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Wait…the NBA draft used to have ten rounds?!?

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https://x.com/englishscope24/status/1831903631291080755?s=46&t=9MMrM6gOVy1pXVWIuEkHnw

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I had high hopes for Kyle Singler

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I guess so. I do remember when they were 5 or 6 rounds. I think the Pistons took Joubert in the 5th.

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https://x.com/TheDunkCentral/status/1834237276991135778

https://x.com/JLEdwardsIII/status/1835665065267413274?t=hvSNLSoDYfqnW_0ye3PmFQ&s=19

Edwards leaving the Pistons beat

I wasn’t a fan of his, but best of luck to him with the NYK at the Athletic. I hope there’s someone good replacing him.

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