Guys they should kick the tires on
Kuzma
Harrison Barnes
Trey Lyles
Georges Niang
Grant Williams (RFA but Boston seems to not want him)
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I think signing a reasonably priced vet or two that enables Cade and Jaden to play with something approximating NBA space makes some sense
Your whole team canāt be 22
I think getting, like, room exception type vets on the wing that are plausible spacers if suspect defenders so Cade-Ivey-Duren can operate like a real O is totally fine. Just donāt like the idea of adding 4 year big money guys.
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Grant Williams! I think he would have gotten $13+ million a year last year, but Mazzula has succeeded in tanking his value. I also think heās actually good?
Full disclosure, my original list had like 4 members of the Kings (Terrence Davis too)
Sry missed your list. Niang, agreed make sense. Lyles maybe played his way to a decent contract and hasnāt really earned yet so Iām guessing heās gonna go to the highest bidder. Guess I donāt know what that number would be. Williams is another guy that makes sense esp. bc of his age.
I think weāre in the same ballpark but Iād rather they pull from the bottom of this list of approximately the same dude and I think youād rather they aim for, like, the middle. But Iād way way rather spend $24M for 2 years or whatever than $20M for 4. Gimme that Torrey Craig tier.
but 23 year old Torrey Craig
You call it the Torrey Craig Tier, I call it the Royce OāNeal Tier.
Trey Lyles is a great example of trading just to trade. He can be what we needed in a backup 5. Why was he traded for a guy that canāt. Frustrating.
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whoās 23 yr old Torrey Craig?
I would rather use the cap space on trades. Identify which teams decide to push the button on a rebuild or need to shed salary to avoid the luxury tax or sign a big fish and try to get one of their role players.
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Best not to mention who the Pistons got back in that deal
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Not sure if youāre one of the Pistons need to win now people, but guys like Niang, Craig and Lyles are fine players but really arenāt going to much help the Pistons win significantly more games. People want the Pistons to show progress and start winning, but players like that are not starters or even major minutes eaters on winning teams.
So do we want to continue on the young path and hope to be good and have cap space in 2-3 years when Cade and Ivey are more established or do we want to spend money and start trying to push for the play-in? Iām patient enough and am fine staying the course, but I know many others are not and think the Pistons need to start ascending now. In order to ascend, you need good players, not more role players.
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Plus Bey is asking for DeAndre Hunterās money which is a hard no for me.
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Does he get credit for finding a definite rotation player in Stew and a potential steal in Duren?
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Definitely not a win now guy. I donāt think the Pistons should be trying harder than the core tells them to try. Was with @mgl last offseason that I thought Weaverās acquisitions were silly and didnāt complement the talent. Also in agreement w him that Cade being out was unlikely to be worth the number of wins some on here want it to be.
So IMHO the project should be maintaining flexibility while supporting the core. I can see @quickdarshanās thought of taking on money to help facilitate what might be big changes working too, provided you can put wing shooters out there w Cade/Ivey + 2023 Pick + Duren. Think thereās a tier of those guys who should be reasonably cheap, particularly if you donāt care a whole lot about defense. Williams would be a nice bit of business bc he slots in real obviously, is young, will help the D culture, etc.
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wasnāt torrey craig in albania or something at 23
maybe look there?
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I think we need to accept that winning lots more games can happen and they can still be in the lottery.
I would like to see Weaver put a sensible roster together with sensible people filling roles that sensible teams need to fill, which he has never done. If they win like 32 games or something thatās cool.
For me, this year is less about the end result than sort of taking the temperature on what Cade (ESPECIALLY), Ivey, and Duren (less so) are/will be, and the roster should give them the opportunity to play real NBA basketball.
I mean he can ask. Nobody is giving to to him. The Pistons wouldnāt have been obliged to.
Pistons already tried the Trey Lyles era it was terrible.
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lol yeah Lyles is definitely the root of that problem
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Ah yes, forgot the 21/22 Pistons sunk on the incompetence of Trey Lyles.
Lyles is a perfectly cromulent backup 4 that will space the floor. Not saying heāll deliver them to the promised land.