Detroit Pistons & NBA Talk

I think this is a reasonable trajectory to set expectations.

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Arguably, we already have a 6ā€™5" version of Amen in Hami, minus the passing ability.

I guess the hope would be that Amen is not close to his ceiling, whereas Hami probably is.

There is a 5 year development time gap here of course

Hami has never been considered a point guard / lead guard though. I think Amenā€™s floor is slightly above Hamiā€™s because of his ball handling and passing abilities.

The issue, though, is Hami is making $5.2M and Amen picked 5th would make $6M in year 1. Youā€™re paying more for a guy who could just be a marginally better version of somebody you already had and are willing to let walk away.

There are risks on all of the picks though. Hendricks could be Austin Daye. Whitmore could be a more athletic version of Saddiq. Walker could be a more athletic version of Stewart.

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Hami is a forward in a guard size. He brings energy and solid defense but is a minus everywhere else.

Amen is a true PG who can create for others but has questionable shooting. Amen has more of a functional athleticism than Hami IMO.

Itā€™s not a good comp IMO but I get what you mean by it.

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I was using broad strokes, for sure. Mostly going with: Super Athletic/Defends Pretty Well/Weak J

Hami does get buckets, though, and has a great motor.

Iā€™ll miss him being a Piston.

Givony on podcasts saying Brandon Miller isnā€™t in great shape for workouts and NBA teams are saying heā€™s not doing great in the interviews. Of course weā€™re in smoke screen szn though and teams that want Miller to fall to them are going to definitely tell reporters heā€™s got problems.

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Miller is, like, 21. I would not at all be surprised if he falls and I would not be surprised if Whimore gets snapped up by Houston, which is why Iā€™m pissed about the fifth pick.

One thing I do know is that I love Jose Mourinho.

Iā€™m in on Hendricks for now. Then whitmore.

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Huh the murder accomplice doesnā€™t come off well in person huh

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Really donā€™t want the Pistons to end up with Miller. No matter how good he is.

I wish the Pistons had a James Harden they could randomly sign to lead their young guys to the playoffs. The situation in Detroit really is dire when the current joke of the league is already many miles ahead of you in competing.

Gotta up the strip club game if you want to compete for Harden

Harden and leadership arenā€™t mixed together too often.

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Regardless of leadership, heā€™s a two time MVP better than anyone on any loterry team (excluding mavs).

Sounds like Weaver has his guy but Gore doesnā€™t like his choice. If the rumor is true and itā€™s Ollie who I donā€™t like for the Pistons, I rather have Weaver make his own choice and let him succeed/fail by his own accord instead of the owner meddle.

Iā€™ve been a supporter of his but I think Iā€™m out on Weaver. Heā€™s done decently with the situation he was dealt with but simply hasnā€™t been good enough to establish confidence that he can turn the Pistons into a respectable franchise. He was brought in for his scouting abilities and so far his big ideas have been to trade for former top picks, hoping they would turn into serviceable players. Heā€™s drafted Killian at 7, hired a sexual predator, and offered interviews for the head coaching vacancy to his buddies.

Thatā€™s already too many mistakes and is simply not good enough. He needs to make some really smart moves this offseason.

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Weaver very much may not be the guy. I admire the teardown, and I get why you take a flier on former/failing lottery picks, but none of them have panned out and Iā€™d settle for 1. And Killian has been a major miss, and the coaching search may be too early to second-guess but who knows? The rebuild hasnā€™t been impressive.

Gores, though. Thereā€™s never been a GM fully trusted here and not second-guessed like this. There doesnā€™t seem to be a clear chain of command. That too is not good.

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I am concerned about Weaver, but to me this is the make-or-break year. Iā€™m not saying they need to be in the play-in for sure, but this year tanking is over and they have to show progress. Draft, free agency, trades, hiring the coach, progress from their young players - thatā€™s the goal. He was dealt a bad hand, he missed on Killian, but how are we moving forward?

Pick the right guy, make some good off-season choices, pick a coach who moves us forward

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I agree. But I have the same question Iā€™d have if Michigan had to hire a new coach, (which I hope it does not): should we have confidence in the person doing the hiring? I have never understood how Gores does things and there just never seems to be a clear chain of command or an understandable organizational flowchart. So hereā€™s hoping that Weaver turns out to be the guy, even though I have my doubts.

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