Detroit Pistons & NBA Talk

I’m not saying Cade isn’t going to be good, I’m just not prepared to write it in stone. Obviously missing this season takes away a ton of information.

I’d say Franz is already filling the role he’ll be asked to. Cade has not yet - and I admit it’s a higher bar, but if he’s going to be the lead ball handler (maybe Ivey should!) it’s a higher bar.

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Yeah and it just highlights how far the Pistons are when even the Magic look like a team more destined for success when you take into account what they already have.

OKC, Houston, Magic…our fellow bottom dwellers have far more talent than we do. While the former two were born on third base, our situation is really similar to the Magic’s. They’ve been collecting lotto picks for the past 15 years to get to this point in the rebuild.

But the Magic (and obviously Houston and OKC) were also able to accumulate some assets to help with the rebuild. Aaron Gordon and Vucevic were able to give them back some picks and young players. Pistons had essentially nothing. Our assets were Drummond, Blake Griffin in a wheelchair and Rose. And that’s about it. None of those could get much in return when Weaver took over compared to George, Westbrook, Paul, Harden, etc etc.

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The Magic tries to compete for a few years, but so much of there currently strong position was that Vuc trade - they got their young starting center, the Franz pick, and another likely late lottery pick coming this year.

Then they hit the Banchero pick, and made two pretty good flier signing - Fultz (who isn’t going to be what everyone hoped but is a starting caliber PG), and Bol (who knows how that will work long term). At least Cole Anthony is a real player.

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Cade played in 12 games in this, his second season. Not worth the effort of comparing stats or impact to Franz, or comparing the Pistons to anyone else in the rebuild process. This roster could still build out very nicely with one more top-level talent.

If you take away the game where Cade was obviously hurt and which finished his season, he was averaging 21.4/6.5/6.4, shooting 43% overall, and 31% from 3. His shooting wasn’t very good, similar to how he started his rookie season, and he still was making some careless passes. I’d still say he was growing his game. It’s been speculated that he was actually playing the whole season hurt.

Now, presuming that this injury won’t be a lingering one through his career, I still see plenty of upside. He was compared to Luke early on. I don’t see that kind of trajectory, but I think he can still be either a lead or a 1A on a contending team. They’re different players, but I could see him being like a Chauncey, in terms of leadership and clutch buckets.

We had both Livers and Franz on the same team…

On paper, and perhaps according the eye test throughout the regular season, that 2020 team is the strongest Michigan team in the past 15 years, better than the 2013 team.

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this looks like one of those individualized defensive outcome stats that dylan’s liable to spike into the shadow realm.

step carefully, my friend. be brave, not foolhardy!

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Oh, no doubt lol. I know for a fact that all defensive stats are trash but if I can use them to prop up my favorite players/teams you best believe I’m going to use then.

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I was confused about the teams in the clip at first too. The league’s gone a little crazy with the alternate uniforms. There’s something to be said for having a consistent brand identity.

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To be fair, between the unis and the presence of Wiseman and Omoruyi you could blink and be at a G League game

would anybody like to discuss the detroit pistons

Only if you can assure me that they will pull the lottery ball

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Pistons = stinky (lottery only hope)
MBB = going to be a boring March and then portal h*ll season begins
Tigers = gross
Cubs (I live near Chicago) = also gross

I guess I’ll be a devoted Michigan Hockey fan for a couple weeks and live on the coin-flip nature of single elimination hockey.

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I’m excited about the NBA playoffs. Even the first round should have some intriguing series.

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Duren and Killian are back tonight. I’m happy to see Duren.

The highlight of tonight (I’m watching on delay) this far, is that they are honoring the 2003 WNBA Champions, the Detroit Shock. Many of the stars are in attendance.

I really wish we still had that team.

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Especially since we now have a downtown arena. Palace was a pain to get to.

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Yeah. I prefer the location, though the Palace was a better place to watch a game.

While I didn’t have a big issue with the trade (though I thought we should’ve gotten more) Saddiq is hitting 50% from 3 (24-48) since joining the Hawks.