Cleveland Cavaliers hire John Beilein

Well he just lost the greatest coach in program history while vacationing in South Africa

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Do you think those things are connected? Like if he wasn’t in South Africa (with the football team mind you) that Beilein wouldn’t have left?

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Do we have a time table on when a new coach should be hired by?

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Now Myles Sims has left the football program while Harbaugh & Manuel are on safari.

I don’t think Beilein left because he was in South Africa, but he was out vacationing instead of trying to prevent our basketball program from collapsing during a high leverage time. Not exactly the picture of competence there.

Sims put his name in the portal like a month ago.

Beilein was not going to give Manuel a chance to change his mind. I’m just not sure what you wanted Manuel to do. They extended JB just last year.

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Not going to give him a chance? He told Warde about this on May 1st. It seems like that was a chance to change his mind at the very least. Seems absurd to me that we think there is no way Beilein could have possibly been convinced to stay when you have Michigan’s resources to work with. The damage may have already been done at this point on Warde’s part, but he should 100% have been working on giving Beilein literally everything he wants and more so.

I would bet a lot of money that Mark Hollis was in constant communication with Izzo during the June of 2010.

Warde says ASAP

There’s been several reasons given on why Beilein left. Literally none of them have anything to do with any action of Warde Manual. Is he supposed to single handedly stop the systematic cheating in the sport? Is he responsible for the rampant roster turnover? Beilein was done with the college game, plain and simple. Blaming his departure on Warde makes absolutely no sense.

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What do you want him to do? He’s on ā€œvacationā€ with the football team. It’s not like he’s unreachable ie Bill Martin. If JB wants to leave, nothing Warde can do other than try to dissuade him with more money or support. And even then, JB might want to leave.

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I would argue it’s the AD’s job to make their coaches feel so supported that they do not want to leave. It may or may not have been possible to prevent Beilein from leaving. But the fact that Beilein had to fight hard for extra assistant pay, and that he was still underpaid compared to his predecessors and that Warde was 6 times zones away after he was told that JB was interviewing for other jobs, it does not seem like a full effort was made to keep him.

And even if there was, this will still fall on his resume as a failure.

Do you have any actual evidence to support the idea that anything Warde could’ve done would have kept Beilein at Michigan? Because there’s quite a bit of it saying the opposite.

Where are you even getting this notion that Warde didn’t ā€œmake Beilein feel supported?ā€ How in the world could you know that? There’s so many quotes from Beilein and people who have talked to him about his dismay at the state of NCAA basketball. That’s such a better supported reason for his departure.

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He got offered a job at a level above his current job. It’s going to be near impossible for Warde to convince someone to say no to that. The basketball program doesn’t get the unlimited funding that the football team does. But the football program is heavily funded by boosters. Only complaint I have with Warde for the bball program is getting more revenue so they can pay assistants more. JB also made way more than Amaker did. And I would safely assume way more than Ellerbe and Fisher considering the length of time between tenures.

It feels like you’re looking for a scapegoat here. I’m not sure there is one. I think JB just wanted to climb the ladder one last time.

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I feel like some people may want a scapegoat here, directing their anger at Manuel when it’s pretty clear why Beilein left, and that isn’t Warde’s fault. Unless Warde makes a bad hire for the next HC then there’s nothing at all to blame him for.

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I would say all of you are simplifying this down way too much. Yes Beilein purportedly has reasons that he was interested in leaving that are not under Warde’s control. Those same reasons would apply to literally any other college coach. Yet there are plenty of coaches who have been convinced to stay at their college instead of going to the NBA (LITERALLY our chief rival is among that group). The situation is not as simple as Beilein likes challenge thus it is impossible to retain him, and it is absurd to say that it is that simple. I would say that Michigan is enough of a destination job that the Athletic department can do a full court press and have a chance to retain their coaches. From the outside looking in, it does not look like any extraordinary efforts were taken.

Say JB tells Warde he is leaving, Warde says you want more money? what can we do? and JB responds no, my minds made up

what else is there to say? JB has been a nomad his whole coaching career, going to progressively higher level jobs, this actually fits his MO.

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Come on. If there was anything about the way Beilein was treated at Michigan or what he perceived was a lack of support then it would have been addressed less than 11 months ago when he negotiated and signed a new contract extension when the pressure was really on Manuel to get a deal done. Not a single negative thing about the school has come out as a reason for Beilein to leave and until so any speculation that this has anything to do with Manuel is absolutely ridiculous.

Beilein didn’t jump at the chance to take the Cavaliers job because he felt slighted because the AD was on a trip to South Africa that was planned months in advance. That’s preposterous. A guy like John Beilein does not make decisions or do business that way.

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Good post. Fully agree. That said, nothing wrong with flying home and begging for one more year. Show him the love just in case it works. And maybe getting out ahead on your next steps, and making sure the players and incoming recruits are respected.