People get stuck on the rankings and what not. An athletic kid that can shoot should be able to make an impact at UM. I like the commitment as well. Poole, matthews, livers is already a solid pull for this recruiting cycle with one scholarship left.
I can buy that, I agree that heās not going to be a huge playmaker off the bounce early on in his career, but heās a terrific fit for the 4 at UM. Kyle Young is too, no question.
I think we all agree that Michigan needed to get more athletic and Livers probably helps that cause more than Young. Even if Young is currently the more productive player at the EYBL level.
You opinion is valued by plenty here as long as you donāt try to Skip Bayless every recruit.
Nice work here.
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I think most of us value your opinion, just not always the way that opinion is presented. Iāve appreciated that youāve been pretty chill lately though. Your site is a great source for our recruiting info, as seen by you getting this commitment announced before any of the major recruiting sites.
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Livers is a solid pickup, but not one to get overly excited about, by any means. The question really isnāt whether heāll be better than the guys weāve tried at the 4 the last couple years, but whether he has more talent and athleticism than the guys that teams like MSU, Indiana and Maryland will be bringing in for that spot in their lineups. Thatās the competition, and the standard weāll be measured against when all is said and done, not last yearās team.
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Another great pickup. Excellent fit for a Beilein four, Michigan kid ā never hurts to beat MSU for a Michigan guy. You can argue about whether or not youād prefer Young or Livers, but Livers is a really good shooter, tall and a good athlete, nicely skilled. Great fit for the roster too. I like it.
I can see that a bit, but Clark was more of a big guard/wing who didnāt have good enough guard skills. Livers has more height and is probably a better shooter too.
Not disappointed in Livers, but he definitely needs to pick up his motor and intensity from what I saw in HS last year.
This ends the Young recruitment IMO and that is very frustrating to me. I loved that kid.
Wonāt be surprised in the least if our 17 recruitment is over very soon.
The five stars are just not realistic going forward, no matter how many top 12 lists we land on. Kids are just filling in names in competition with others for attention and perceived importance. In reality kids have 2-4 schools that they have sincere interest in. The rest is just for social media fluff.
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Two 2017 commits who picked Michigan over their dream school. Obviously thereās a lot more to a recruitment, but just an interesting fact.
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An argument about height (when basically everyoneās height is fudged) is something we donāt need. A classic argument that no one can win.
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Well MSU tried bringing in Livers, so he must compare pretty well. I meanā¦
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Iām happy about this commit! Not only about the player, but the progress that seems to have been made in managing the recruiting process. 5* are nice, but in my opinion it was more important to establish consistency and a quality baseline that the program can build on going forward. They seem to have figured out āthe gameā somewhat. The odd 5* will come down the road once weāve reestablished the consistency and quality year over year.
The point of posting this was so all of you guys wouldnāt keep arguing about it.
Was it that we werenāt liking the outlook of getting someone else like Young, Tillman, etc?
Or that we really liked Livers that much?
I am happy with this commit. I have always thought that Young would end up at OSU. I have a hunch that Livers will have more success at the college level than Young. IMO, Young is closer to his ceiling. Guess we will find out in 3 or 4 years. If Young ends up a buckeye, we will get to see them go head to head.
This class is shaping up very nicely. With the four we already have (including Mathews), this gives us some flexibility on how we use the last spot.
As I said, heās a quality recruit, and Iām certainly not claiming that no other decent program wanted him. But if he would only have been a bench player for MSU because they got someone else even better at that position, but ends up starting for us, then he was not as good a recruit as we needed.
Does this mean the staff was viewing smith as a 4 and not a 2 or 3 like Cain? crossing my fingers as I would love to see Cain in this class
Some more video of Livers
Two UM commits now on Bowenās AAU team. Think that helps our case with him in any way?
We must start praying we get an elite talent. Bowen is the man!